The Official NBA Season Thread: Las Vegas Summer League

[storm2006]

A non-hoops related personal beef developing between two prominent regulars was not something we needed prior to opening night

Having said that - I am curious about this Halloween Display at Casa De lawdog1 . Is this an LA thing? I remember Bron’s social media post a year or two ago of his crib decorated for Halloween so after your post, I wasn’t sure if it was customary in California.

I never did/had any of that stuff growing up and for better or worse, I have lived in high rise condos most of my post college-adult life so never have had the opportunity to do it myself. I decorate a MEAN Christmas tree, though. Missed out on apple picking this year (there’s still time to resolve my situation and I could maybe meet someone who is interested in doing that) but EYE am copping that tree regardless.

I also make sure now that all other December holidays are recognized in my crib. People walk into my place and see Hanukkah and Kwanza decorations and hit me with the

 

[toneboi76]

Honest question: how were Kawhi and LeBron off ball in 19 and 20?

I feel like how Luka is now on and off ball is just not how they're gonna win. When they went to WCF by the eye test Luka wasn't great off ball no surprise, but on ball he wasn't as sticky and guys were hitting 3's. It just went downhill from there especially losing Brunson for nothing

Lebron is an elite cutter

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Lebron is an elite cutter

And then Kawhi had FVV and Siakam to do some on ball stuff

I know the numbers for Luka x Kyrie were good (not necessarily the W/L numbers though) but they're gonna need to be more team oriented. Even just a little bit at least

 

[storm2006]

Just saw a snippet of a Malika x Wemby interview that ESPN plans to air next Wednesday during NBA Today and NBA Countdown.

WASHED KING going to be SICK

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Just saw a snippet of a Malika x Wemby interview that ESPN plans to air next Wednesday during NBA Today and NBA Countdown.

WASHED KING going to be SICK

Doubting Victor was one of the weirder takes to take

But I get it since it threatened LeBron being the "best prospect ever" lol

 

[ill steelo]

Style of play...

Most importantly separated by mental fortitude. Again it could always change but there’s no comparison right now.

They’re not truly similar if I can count on 1 guy to show up under the brightest lights but not the other guy.

If I’m trying to win a title you can’t just gloss over that.

Honest question: how were Kawhi and LeBron off ball in 19 and 20?

I feel like how Luka is now on and off ball is just not how they're gonna win. When they went to WCF by the eye test Luka wasn't great off ball no surprise, but on ball he wasn't as sticky and guys were hitting 3's. It just went downhill from there especially losing Brunson for nothing

Iso Kawhi was only a thing after the original big 3 aged. Before that he fit the system like a glove. Like everyone else on the court, his decisions were instant - pass, shoot, or drive as soon as you catch it.

Limited triple thread, jab steps, etc.

Bron off ball movement back then was largely limited to just sets. If it wasn’t a play he was usually just spotting up.

Offense will never be the problem for any Luka team. Defensively you’ll need to get creative but you can be good enough on that end also like we’ve seen with Harden & Dirk.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Most importantly separated by mental fortitude. Again it could always change but there’s no comparison right now.

They’re not truly similar if I can count on 1 guy to show up under the brightest lights but not the other guy.

If I’m trying to win a title you can’t just gloss over that.

Iso Kawhi was only a thing after the original big 3 aged. Before that he fit the system like a glove. Like everyone else on the court, his decisions were instant - pass, shoot, or drive as soon as you catch it.

Limited triple thread, jab steps, etc.

Bron off ball movement back then was largely limited to just sets. If it wasn’t a play he was usually just spotting up.

Offense will never be the problem for any Luka team. Defensively you’ll need to get creative but you can be good enough on that end also like we’ve seen with Harden & Dirk.

I get you but idk I feel like offensive numbers can be fake or inflated at least, especially in the regular season. Just like defensive numbers (looking at you Utah during the Gobert era)

Like, the Mavs have been a top offense, last year they were #6 but they weren't scaring anyone at all despite that. They couldn't even make the Play In

All that dribbling sucks man

 

[ill steelo]

I get you but idk I feel like offensive numbers can be fake or inflated at least, especially in the regular season. Just like defensive numbers (looking at you Utah during the Gobert era)

Like, the Mavs have been a top offense, last year they were #6 but they weren't scaring anyone at all despite that. They couldn't even make the Play In

All that dribbling sucks man

Yea I understand that viewpoint as well The largest issue with Dallas though was they were a bottom 5 defense.

It’s just very difficult to see how they’re gonna improve significantly there when you had to burn assets for Kyrie.

It’s pretty much just the draft + mid level exceptions.

I like the Grant Williams signing, and moving on from Powell starting is long overdue, but you can’t have any lofty expectations of Lively either

Just a tough situation to navigate.

 

[earldagoat]

 

[storm2006]

Doubting Victor was one of the weirder takes to take

But I get it since it threatened LeBron being the "best prospect ever" lol

At this point, it’s actually difficult to point to anything about Wemby that say he will be a bust or not live up to expectations. If he is healthy, I think will be one of them ones.

The 25PPG thing is interesting. That is A LOT to expect of any rookie imo. And people are talking about playoffs too?? 20+ points, 8+ rebounds, 2+ blocks would be phenomenal to see IMO but it seems like folks have some loftier expectations for him

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Yea I understand that viewpoint as well The largest issue with Dallas though was they were a bottom 5 defense.

It’s just very difficult to see how they’re gonna improve significantly there when you had to burn assets for Kyrie.

It’s pretty much just the draft + mid level exceptions.

I like the Grant Williams signing, and moving on from Powell starting is long overdue, but you can’t have any lofty expectations of Lively either

Just a tough situation to navigate.

It really is. It's not even like I want him to pass to Josh Green to iso himself

It's just ugly to see Luka do his Luka thing and everyone else stationary staring at him

Depending on a rookie to help you win in the Playoffs is rarely going to work. Now you're asking a rookie center to anchor your defense? That makes zero sense

But when they made the WCF they didn't have the greatest defensive personnel and it was still passable. Then they just couldn't keep up offensively with GSW and that was to be completely expected

With Kyrie here and shooters around them, despite the defense I feel like their offense has zero excuses not to be elite and not fake elite

 

[addict4sneakers]

The off the ball stuff is overblown to me. Get more hoopers around him and he adjusts. The defense is the issue.

 

[akajae]

The craziest thing to me is the Halloween display on the 20th of October. What's next, Christmas lights November 15th?

Have some decorum.

Try telling my girl this

She’s been puttting up Halloween bulljunk even before Starbucks brought back pumpkin spice

 

[akajae]

My UFC fans don’t forget the fights early today

 

[storm2006]

Try telling my girl this

She’s been puttting up Halloween bulljunk even before Starbucks brought back pumpkin spice

Starbucks officially had Pumpkin Spice Lattes on the menu this year on August 24th. Please don’t tell me you had Halloween decorations up and around prior to Labor Day

 

[WASHED KING]

Doubting Victor was one of the weirder takes to take

But I get it since it threatened LeBron being the "best prospect ever" lol

Season hasn’t even officially started yet.

Still not sold. He’s supposed to be doing this if he’s who people claim he is. I stand by everything I’ve said.

 

[antidope]

Season hasn’t even officially started yet.

Still not sold. He’s supposed to be doing this if he’s who people claim he is. I stand by everything I’ve said.

Insanity

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

The off the ball stuff is overblown to me. Get more hoopers around him and he adjusts. The defense is the issue.

Aint just off ball it's on ball too

 

[MVP]

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[akajae]

Starbucks officially had Pumpkin Spice Lattes on the menu this year on August 24th. Please don’t tell me you had Halloween decorations up and around prior to Labor Day

Might’ve been exaggerating a bit but she for sure was trying to end summer early with these fall decorations

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

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If y'all wanna do bread forreal lemme know. $50 each? $350 to the winner and $150 for the runner up?

Did I win this last year or was that someone else's? I'd prob be down

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

At this point, it’s actually difficult to point to anything about Wemby that say he will be a bust or not live up to expectations. If he is healthy, I think will be one of them ones.

The 25PPG thing is interesting. That is A LOT to expect of any rookie imo. And people are talking about playoffs too?? 20+ points, 8+ rebounds, 2+ blocks would be phenomenal to see IMO but it seems like folks have some loftier expectations for him

Wilt/Kareem/MJ. To me he's in that realm. Can't really overstate the physical advantage he has over everyone in the league

 

[MVP]

We have never seen this before

He may be the greatest prospect in human history, no disrespect to dude from Nazareth.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Season hasn’t even officially started yet.

Still not sold. He’s supposed to be doing this if he’s who people claim he is. I stand by everything I’ve said.

You should be the first to bet Lee on the 25 ppg then

 

[storm2006]

Season hasn’t even officially started yet.

Still not sold. He’s supposed to be doing this if he’s who people claim he is. I stand by everything I’ve said.

This entire mentality is crazy to me. If a teenager comes into the league and puts 20+ points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks then you’re just going to discount it by saying “Well this is what he was supposed to do.” It’s just next level hating and reasoning for no reason