THIS IS JUST TERRIBLE... animal abuse*warning very graphic video*

[nako xl]

this is why we should all just change our diets

http://www.lulu.com/content/4956212

 

[r0biiin]

Originally Posted by az005us

im not watchin that, i cant....

Me too...

 

[smoke ya later]

circle of life. however what they were doing was just weird. also these animals are bred for us to eat as us americans have great demand for ham etc. just likecows for the milk and beef. Nothing to start an argument over vegetarians vs. everyone else. People are going to eat meat regardless.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

We've all heard the stories of how the average American has so much undigested meat sitting in their intestines. While that is hideous it is not the fault of the meat that it is stuck in there. The key word here is undigested......

Also just like vegetables if you over cook meat you kill the enzymes that were in that food. What has to happen then for proper digestion to occur is your pancrease must manufacture the enzymes for the body. . The problem is, if you are like many people in the modern world and consume far too much sugar, your pancrease is probably already overworked because it has been going nuts producing all the insulin your body needs to deal with all the sugar you've been shoveling into it. The impaired pancreatic function does not bode well for proper digestion and elimination of your overcooked food, meat or otherwise.

 

[Mister Meaner]

Originally Posted by smoke ya later

circle of life. however what they were doing was just weird. also these animals are bred for us to eat as us americans have great demand for ham etc. just like cows for the milk and beef. Nothing to start an argument over vegetarians vs. everyone else. People are going to eat meat regardless.

Just take that moment of silence you should have before replying to this thread. By far the dumbest reply yet.

 

[roman736]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Demented bastards.

Even if you don't care about that sadistic behavior...just think about how healthy that dead meat rotting in your intestine really is.

Meat rots in your intestine? Maybe you should have thought that one over a bit more.


to rot (third-person singular simple present rots, present participle rotting, simple past rotted, past participle rotten)

1. to decay or decompose; to become bad

to digest (third-person singular simple present digests, present participle digesting, simple past and past participle digested)

1. (transitive) To distribute or arrange methodically; to work over and classify; to reduce to portions for ready use or application. to digest laws
2. (transitive) To separate (the food) in its passage through the alimentary canal into the nutritive and nonnutritive elements; to prepare, by the action of the digestive juices, for conversion into blood; to convert into chyme.
   

NO...maybe you should use a tool a little more in depth than a dictionary when attempting to be a smartass....

Does Meat Decompose in Your Intestines?

Meat is harder to digest than plant foods and continues to putrefy in the digestive tract

Oh crap! I'm sorry. You're right. Maybe I should use one of my "tools" before making such claims, just as you did with those reallyscientific articles written by unidentified authors. I am SO PROUD of your intelligence and facts. What better place to learn about digestion and decompositionthan a "personal development and transformation" website and another, whose author did not take the time to fix grammatical mistakes? Now let meexplain the tool I have: MYSELF. You see... some of us here on NT have something called a "science degree". I happen to have TWO from a veryprestigious college. One of them is in Neuroscience, and the other one is in CHEMISTRY, which explains to me the most detailed facts about what it means toDECOMPOSE. But more importantly, I also have a "medical degree," which makes ME a better source and significantly more scientifically literate thaneither one of your two measly webpages, particularly about DIGESTION. So the next time you question my scientific knowlege, maybe you should try using anactual scientificly source, such as a research journal or e-medicine.com. Even wikipedia is better than those two completely incorrect webpages that you baseyour response on.

 

[dmbrhs]

I didn't watch, but I'm guessing this is one of those PETA things where they infiltrate one animal slaughter house where they mistreat animals and thengo on to say "this is how animals are mistreated in America," without even talking about the countless slaughterhouses that treat animals humanely.

 

[roman736]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

We've all heard the stories of how the average American has so much undigested meat sitting in their intestines. While that is hideous it is not the fault of the meat that it is stuck in there. The key word here is undigested......

Also just like vegetables if you over cook meat you kill the enzymes that were in that food. What has to happen then for proper digestion to occur is your pancrease must manufacture the enzymes for the body. . The problem is, if you are like many people in the modern world and consume far too much sugar, your pancrease is probably already overworked because it has been going nuts producing all the insulin your body needs to deal with all the sugar you've been shoveling into it. The impaired pancreatic function does not bode well for proper digestion and elimination of your overcooked food, meat or otherwise.




Thank you for the explanation! Now let me type down the THOUSANDS of pages of detailed medical textbooks that I have been memorizing for so many hours over thepast few years. First of all, your pancreas is NOT going to suddenly be impaired from eating a lot of sugar, assuming you do. The pancreas is both anEXOCRINE gland and an ENDOCRINE gland. Sugar levels in your blood pertain to its endocrine functions, while digestion pertains to its exocrine functions whichare not as interrelated as your CRAP ARTICLE makes them out to be. Secondly, a lot of the meat you digest is digested in your stomach by stomach acids. By thetime it actually reaches your bile duct it's already catabolized down to amino acids and small peptides. The pancreas does help in the digestion of thosepeptides, but its major functions are to break down the starches and fats, not the proteins! Discussing the pancreas to explain your "meat rotting"theory is a complete non sequiter.

 

[smoke ya later]

Originally Posted by Super Producer J

Originally Posted by smoke ya later

circle of life. however what they were doing was just weird. also these animals are bred for us to eat as us americans have great demand for ham etc. just like cows for the milk and beef. Nothing to start an argument over vegetarians vs. everyone else. People are going to eat meat regardless.

Just take that moment of silence you should have before replying to this thread. By far the dumbest reply yet.

how so?
everything I said is false?

 

[cekpethobce]

Originally Posted by Purple Face

Originally Posted by Purple Face

*eats sum porkchops while looking at vid*

How could you be so insensitive, my dude?

i see what you did there

 

[mrmundaynite]

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

We've all heard the stories of how the average American has so much undigested meat sitting in their intestines. While that is hideous it is not the fault of the meat that it is stuck in there. The key word here is undigested......

Also just like vegetables if you over cook meat you kill the enzymes that were in that food. What has to happen then for proper digestion to occur is your pancrease must manufacture the enzymes for the body. . The problem is, if you are like many people in the modern world and consume far too much sugar, your pancrease is probably already overworked because it has been going nuts producing all the insulin your body needs to deal with all the sugar you've been shoveling into it. The impaired pancreatic function does not bode well for proper digestion and elimination of your overcooked food, meat or otherwise.

Thank you for the explanation! Now let me type down the THOUSANDS of pages of detailed medical textbooks that I have been memorizing for so many hours over the past few years.
I HATE that avy, one of my least favorite pictures on the internet. I always end up staring at it for 10-15 seconds and getting a headache.

 

[heavinsent15]

All the people who are okay with this behavior please tell me what the need is for treating animals like this. By watching how the $%@^ talked about the pigsit seemed like he had problems and was just steaming it out on the innocent pigs which is just wrong

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Demented bastards.

Even if you don't care about that sadistic behavior...just think about how healthy that dead meat rotting in your intestine really is.

Meat rots in your intestine? Maybe you should have thought that one over a bit more.


to rot (third-person singular simple present rots, present participle rotting, simple past rotted, past participle rotten)

1. to decay or decompose; to become bad

to digest (third-person singular simple present digests, present participle digesting, simple past and past participle digested)

1. (transitive) To distribute or arrange methodically; to work over and classify; to reduce to portions for ready use or application. to digest laws
2. (transitive) To separate (the food) in its passage through the alimentary canal into the nutritive and nonnutritive elements; to prepare, by the action of the digestive juices, for conversion into blood; to convert into chyme.
   

NO...maybe you should use a tool a little more in depth than a dictionary when attempting to be a smartass....

Does Meat Decompose in Your Intestines?

Meat is harder to digest than plant foods and continues to putrefy in the digestive tract

Oh crap! I'm sorry. You're right. Maybe I should use one of my "tools" before making such claims, just as you did with those really scientific articles written by unidentified authors. I am SO PROUD of your intelligence and facts. What better place to learn about digestion and decomposition than a "personal development and transformation" website and another, whose author did not take the time to fix grammatical mistakes? Now let me explain the tool I have: MYSELF. You see... some of us here on NT have something called a "science degree". I happen to have TWO from a very prestigious college. One of them is in Neuroscience, and the other one is in CHEMISTRY, which explains to me the most detailed facts about what it means to DECOMPOSE. But more importantly, I also have a "medical degree," which makes ME a better source and significantly more scientifically literate than either one of your two measly webpages, particularly about DIGESTION. So the next time you question my scientific knowlege, maybe you should try using an actual scientificly source, such as a research journal or e-medicine.com. Even wikipedia is better than those two completely incorrect webpages that you base your response on.

Another predictable rant by a self proclaimed NT genius.....

The gases which are produced by the decomposition processes are
mixed in the intestinal tract with the atmospheric air swallowed with
the saliva and food, and as the gas developed in the decomposition of
different foods varies, so the mixture of gases after various foods should
have a dissimilar composition. This is found to be true. Oxygen is
found only in very faint traces in the intestine; this may be accounted
for in part by the formation of reducing substances in the fermentation
processes which combine with the oxygen, and partly, perhaps
chiefly, to a diffusion of the oxygen through the tissues of the walls of
the intestine.


[h2]A Text-book of Physiological Chemistry[/h2] By Olof Hammarsten

In addition to the two pathogenic forms just mentioned,
Escherich found proteus vulgaris in meconium
streptococcus coli gracilis, bacillus subtilis, and several
other forms of less interest.
The great point is that by the examination of a
large series of cases Escherich has been able to establish
the fact that the kinds occurring in the faeces vary
with the food ; that is, the intestinal contents.
Starting at birth with the sterile meconium, consisting
of mucous, epithelium and the like, infection by
the mouth and rectum quickly occurs, and in a short
time most any form may be found, but chiefly putrefying
forms, as proteus vulgaris. With the suckling of
the child and the substitution of the refuse of the
milk and secretion of the digestive tract for the meconium,
a sharp transition occurs. Instead of the generally
distributed forms causing decomposition, only two
kinds are regularly found : B. lactis aerogenes and
Brieger's bacillus ; the first chiefly in the upper parts
of the intestine, the second in the lower parts. Passing
on to the period of mixed diet, quite a number of
forms appear, among them the streptococcus coli
gracilis, the putrefying green fluorescing, a tetrad
coccus, and several kinds of yeasts. This brings us to
the pith of the subject : why are the flora so limited in
the milk-eating infants and so diverse in others ? What
drives the forms found in the meconium out ? That
they can live there is clear, as shown by their presence
the day before. Again, what prevents forms so common
with meat diet from gaining a footing ? It is not the
milk alone, for milk is an almost universal food for
bacteria, and all the kinds found in the intestines
thrive in it.

[h2]The Boston Medical and Surgical Journal[/h2] By Massachusetts Medical Society, New England Surgical Society

An examination of the unconsumed meat showed it to be well advanced in decomposition. With the exception of one piece, the reaction was alkaline. Agar-agar and bouillon cultures were made from a piece of the meat which showed no signs of decomposition. White mice inoculated with the bouillon cultures and with small bits of meat died, some in from eighteen to twenty-eight hours, others within three days. A guinea-pig inoculated by a subcutaneous injection of bouillon culture died in forty-eight hours, having shown marked lassitude and profuse diarrhea.

[h2]Modern Medicine[/h2] By Battle Creek Sanitarium



ANY MORE RANTING DR. ROMAN?......

 

[yoda]

Originally Posted by heaVINsent15

All the people who are okay with this behavior please tell me what the need is for treating animals like this. By watching how the $%@^ talked about the pigs it seemed like he had problems and was just steaming it out on the innocent pigs which is just wrong

There clearly is something wrong with the treatment of those pigs. Nobodies arguing that.

I don't let stuff like that bother me because they're animals. They're lower than us on the food chain, so stuff like that doesn't affect me.

 

[heavinsent15]

haze > roman on every post...


dude should just quit

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

We've all heard the stories of how the average American has so much undigested meat sitting in their intestines. While that is hideous it is not the fault of the meat that it is stuck in there. The key word here is undigested......

Also just like vegetables if you over cook meat you kill the enzymes that were in that food. What has to happen then for proper digestion to occur is your pancrease must manufacture the enzymes for the body. . The problem is, if you are like many people in the modern world and consume far too much sugar, your pancrease is probably already overworked because it has been going nuts producing all the insulin your body needs to deal with all the sugar you've been shoveling into it. The impaired pancreatic function does not bode well for proper digestion and elimination of your overcooked food, meat or otherwise.

Thank you for the explanation! Now let me type down the THOUSANDS of pages of detailed medical textbooks that I have been memorizing for so many hours over the past few years. First of all, your pancreas is NOT going to suddenly be impaired from eating a lot of sugar, assuming you do. The pancreas is both an EXOCRINE gland and an ENDOCRINE gland. Sugar levels in your blood pertain to its endocrine functions, while digestion pertains to its exocrine functions which are not as interrelated as your CRAP ARTICLE makes them out to be. Secondly, a lot of the meat you digest is digested in your stomach by stomach acids. By the time it actually reaches your bile duct it's already catabolized down to amino acids and small peptides. The pancreas does help in the digestion of those peptides, but its major functions are to break down the starches and fats, not the proteins! Discussing the pancreas to explain your "meat rotting" theory is a complete non sequiter.

7th grade biology FTL.

Get a refund on those degrees fam....ASAP. You've been hoodwinked into thinking you know more than you do....real talk.

 

[dmbrhs]

Originally Posted by heaVINsent15

All the people who are okay with this behavior please tell me what the need is for treating animals like this. By watching how the $%@^ talked about the pigs it seemed like he had problems and was just steaming it out on the innocent pigs which is just wrong

There's no need. What I'm saying is that this type of animal mistreatment isn't the norm. It's the exception. So expose theseguys, but don't make everyone who deals with the killing of animals as a bad person. The overwhelming majority of them are humane about it.

 

[heavinsent15]

Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell

Originally Posted by Purple Face

Originally Posted by Purple Face

*eats sum porkchops while looking at vid*

How could you be so insensitive, my dude?

ummmm....those are just pigs...who cares?

i'm guessing people like this are okay with it

 

[roman736]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by roman736

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Demented bastards.

Even if you don't care about that sadistic behavior...just think about how healthy that dead meat rotting in your intestine really is.

Meat rots in your intestine? Maybe you should have thought that one over a bit more.


to rot (third-person singular simple present rots, present participle rotting, simple past rotted, past participle rotten)

1. to decay or decompose; to become bad

to digest (third-person singular simple present digests, present participle digesting, simple past and past participle digested)

1. (transitive) To distribute or arrange methodically; to work over and classify; to reduce to portions for ready use or application. to digest laws
2. (transitive) To separate (the food) in its passage through the alimentary canal into the nutritive and nonnutritive elements; to prepare, by the action of the digestive juices, for conversion into blood; to convert into chyme.
   

NO...maybe you should use a tool a little more in depth than a dictionary when attempting to be a smartass....

Does Meat Decompose in Your Intestines?

Meat is harder to digest than plant foods and continues to putrefy in the digestive tract

Oh crap! I'm sorry. You're right. Maybe I should use one of my "tools" before making such claims, just as you did with those really scientific articles written by unidentified authors. I am SO PROUD of your intelligence and facts. What better place to learn about digestion and decomposition than a "personal development and transformation" website and another, whose author did not take the time to fix grammatical mistakes? Now let me explain the tool I have: MYSELF. You see... some of us here on NT have something called a "science degree". I happen to have TWO from a very prestigious college. One of them is in Neuroscience, and the other one is in CHEMISTRY, which explains to me the most detailed facts about what it means to DECOMPOSE. But more importantly, I also have a "medical degree," which makes ME a better source and significantly more scientifically literate than either one of your two measly webpages, particularly about DIGESTION. So the next time you question my scientific knowlege, maybe you should try using an actual scientificly source, such as a research journal or e-medicine.com. Even wikipedia is better than those two completely incorrect webpages that you base your response on.

Another predictable rant by a self proclaimed NT genius.....

The gases which are produced by the decomposition processes are
mixed in the intestinal tract with the atmospheric air swallowed with
the saliva and food, and as the gas developed in the decomposition of
different foods varies, so the mixture of gases after various foods should
have a dissimilar composition. This is found to be true. Oxygen is
found only in very faint traces in the intestine; this may be accounted
for in part by the formation of reducing substances in the fermentation
processes which combine with the oxygen, and partly, perhaps
chiefly, to a diffusion of the oxygen through the tissues of the walls of
the intestine.

[h2]A Text-book of Physiological Chemistry[/h2]By Olof Hammarsten

In addition to the two pathogenic forms just mentioned,
Escherich found proteus vulgaris in meconium
streptococcus coli gracilis, bacillus subtilis, and several
other forms of less interest.
The great point is that by the examination of a
large series of cases Escherich has been able to establish
the fact that the kinds occurring in the faeces vary
with the food ; that is, the intestinal contents.
Starting at birth with the sterile meconium, consisting
of mucous, epithelium and the like, infection by
the mouth and rectum quickly occurs, and in a short
time most any form may be found, but chiefly putrefying
forms, as proteus vulgaris. With the suckling of
the child and the substitution of the refuse of the
milk and secretion of the digestive tract for the meconium,
a sharp transition occurs. Instead of the generally
distributed forms causing decomposition, only two
kinds are regularly found : B. lactis aerogenes and
Brieger's bacillus ; the first chiefly in the upper parts
of the intestine, the second in the lower parts. Passing
on to the period of mixed diet, quite a number of
forms appear, among them the streptococcus coli
gracilis, the putrefying green fluorescing, a tetrad
coccus, and several kinds of yeasts. This brings us to
the pith of the subject : why are the flora so limited in
the milk-eating infants and so diverse in others ? What
drives the forms found in the meconium out ? That
they can live there is clear, as shown by their presence
the day before. Again, what prevents forms so common
with meat diet from gaining a footing ? It is not the
milk alone, for milk is an almost universal food for
bacteria, and all the kinds found in the intestines
thrive in it.

[h2]The Boston Medical and Surgical Journal[/h2]By Massachusetts Medical Society, New England Surgical Society

An examination of the unconsumed meat showed it to be well advanced in decomposition. With the exception of one piece, the reaction was alkaline. Agar-agar and bouillon cultures were made from a piece of the meat which showed no signs of decomposition. White mice inoculated with the bouillon cultures and with small bits of meat died, some in from eighteen to twenty-eight hours, others within three days. A guinea-pig inoculated by a subcutaneous injection of bouillon culture died in forty-eight hours, having shown marked lassitude and profuse diarrhea.

[h2]Modern Medicine[/h2]By Battle Creek Sanitarium



ANY MORE RANTING DR. ROMAN?......



Do you even know what you are posting? Your first article is about oxygen levels in the gut. Your point being? Less oxygen levels supports MY argument notYOURS. Your second article was about intestinal flora. Great. By the time your food reaches those bacteria it is no longer meat, but rather a product of youralready digested food. And your final article talks about decomposition of meat in mice GI tracts. OK, I see where you are driving this, except thatdecomposition is not rotting. In the context of that article it is the breaking up of food by your digestive enzymes.

 

[wallyhopp]

sads stuff. no ham for me for thanksgiving. turkey all day

 

[elboricua 6]

^^^ yo on the real I need Dr Roman right now .. because Im drying ova here .. LMAO

hahhaha I dont know who is who and I dont know what is what but for a dumb mofo like me it seems like you kicking Dr Roman #!% all around NT .. LMAO!

 

[abeautifulhaze]

Originally Posted by roman736

Do you even know what you are posting? Your first article is about oxygen levels in the gut. Your point being? Less oxygen levels supports MY argument not YOURS. Your second article was about intestinal flora. Great. By the time your food reaches those bacteria it is no longer meat, but rather a product of your already digested food. And your final article talks about decomposition of meat in mice GI tracts. OK, I see where you are driving this, except that decomposition is not rotting. In the context of that article it is the breaking up of food by your digestive enzymes.

Final answer?

 

[grizztheboss]

I'm going to buy me a pig, and raise it and love it!

 

[abeautifulhaze]

[h1]rot[/h1]1. To undergo a processcommon to organic substances bywhich they lose the cohesion of theirparts and pass through certain chemical changes,giving off usually in some stages of the process more or less offensive odors; to become decomposed by a natural process; toputrefy; to decay.

[h3]Definition: foot rot from Online MedicalDictionary[/h3]Published at the Centre for Cancer Education, University of Newcastle upon Tyne
[emoji]169[/emoji] Copyright 1997-2007 - The Centre for Cancer Education. All Rights Reserved.

Look into getting those refunds homie...seriously.

Intellectual overconfidence and unnecessary arrogance.....surefire way to look like a complete idiot.

 

[roman736]

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by roman736

Do you even know what you are posting? Your first article is about oxygen levels in the gut. Your point being? Less oxygen levels supports MY argument not YOURS. Your second article was about intestinal flora. Great. By the time your food reaches those bacteria it is no longer meat, but rather a product of your already digested food. And your final article talks about decomposition of meat in mice GI tracts. OK, I see where you are driving this, except that decomposition is not rotting. In the context of that article it is the breaking up of food by your digestive enzymes.

Final answer?

Yeah you can put a bunch of pictures and

and people are gonna think you are somehow winning an argument, but we both knowyou don't know what you're talking about.