To those that oppose Gay Marriage, WHY?

[javier5857]

i see His grace and mercy everyday i live cause i mess up alot but He still loves and forgives me.

You killin me with this fairytale $%@$..

 

[freshprince]

Originally Posted by CWrite78

Originally Posted by FreshPrince

Originally Posted by The Minister

cuz its gross

but yet, you have at some point choked your chicken to lesbian porn. double standards much? and what's so gross about it? you going into people's houses and watching them live? they trying to put it in your +%+?

1. Yes. Double standards

(I prefer exceptions, but call itwhat you want). I rather watch two gorgeous females make out

, than twodudes tangle up their facial hair
2. WTH are you talking about (refer to bold print)
3.

 

[eaalto]

I won't lie....I love to watch women make out more than I like to watch guys make out. That doesn't make me evil, I just get turned on by the womenmore.

As for marriage? I could honestly care less. If two guys want to get married, it does not affect me in any way. If two girls want to get married, it does notaffect me in anyway. I don't understand what the controversy is over this whole issue. It's not as if two straight people getting married is that bigof a deal...

I haven't reaped any real social benefits since I married my wife, what more do gays have to gain by getting married that we should really prohibit themfrom doing so? It's a symbolic representation of their love, and they should have every right to do so as a straight couple does.

I have yet to hear a logical argument against the issue.

 

[cwrite78]

you mad.. so original.

 

[suckafree85]

Just for my information. All of those commercials saying they would teach it to kids in schools was a lie right?

 

[bns1201]

Originally Posted by CWrite78

Originally Posted by FreshPrince

The Minister wrote:

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cuz its gross

but yet, you have at some point choked your chicken to lesbian porn. double standards much? and what's so gross about it? you going into people's houses and watching them live? they trying to put it in your +%+?


Evan: You could always subscribe to a site like Perfect Ten. I mean that could be anything, it could be a bowling site.
Seth: Yeah, but it doesn't actually show %#+! going in which is a huge concern.
Evan: Right, I didn't realize that.
Seth: Besides, have you ever seen a vagina by itself?
Evan: No.
Seth: [shakes his head] Not for me.


Replace seth with me, and thats how i feel....youre double standards stuff is null and void in my case.

 

[cwrite78]

Originally Posted by bns1201

Originally Posted by CWrite78

Originally Posted by FreshPrince

The Minister wrote:

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cuz its gross

but yet, you have at some point choked your chicken to lesbian porn. double standards much? and what's so gross about it? you going into people's houses and watching them live? they trying to put it in your +%+?

Evan: You could always subscribe to a site like Perfect Ten. I mean that could be anything, it could be a bowling site.
Seth: Yeah, but it doesn't actually show %#+! going in which is a huge concern.
Evan: Right, I didn't realize that.
Seth: Besides, have you ever seen a vagina by itself?
Evan: No.
Seth: [shakes his head] Not for me.


Replace seth with me, and thats how i feel....youre double standards stuff is null and void in my case.


what the *$+# are you talking about

 

[ratxaxtat]

The same things are being argued over and over and it's useless.
Most of these people's minds are set and no amount of reasoning is going to change that.
Let them remain close minded.

This thread serves no purpose. OP's question has been "answered".
This thread should be locked.

 

[jsindaa]

Why does this ALWAYS have to be a religion thing?? It shows the ignorance in both parties. It's as simple as this...being gay is just not normal by anystretch of the imagination. Americans trying to recognize as normal or force the matter doesn't make it normal. It's just not normal for 2 guys to bangeach other. You're fooling yourself if you believe so. It doesn't bother me too much...it's just......weird. The fact that atheists and christiansboth find it disgusting should tell you something. As I said before it does not bother me so much, what bothers me is to expect people to accept that union andview it in the same light as a hetero union. It will never and can never happen period. As wild as it seems if you let this happen then you'll have looniesscreaming for rights because they are "in love" with their animals.

 

[producedbythejuice]

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by gambit215

once u open doors to tolerate a LIFESTYLE in which people DECIDE to participate in oral and anal sex with the same gender, you open pandoras box to God knows other perverted things people will say should be allowed because it makes them `happy`

I mean homosexuality has been taboo for hundreds of years but all of a sudden its cool...................whatever man, where do you draw the line? I mean I live by facts, if two male any other animals started screwing around we would say, hey thats not normal, lets establish some consistency people

Its not wrong to be homosexual, but its WRONG to be gay, i know some of you will say, isnt that the same thing? but its not, it sooooooooooooooo isnt

Damn, talk about your slippery slopes...

homie trailed off at the end but he has a point. like i said before, its the agenda attached to it.

Several points that I think sum up this entire argument:

People who are against gay marriage claim:
1. Gay people choose to be gay
2. They can't reproduce, so it's unnatural and wrong
3. It says in the Bible that marriage is between a man and a woman, so they shouldn't be allowed to marry

To which I say:
1. Gay people do NOT choose to be gay. Anyone who tries to make this argument either has extremely rigid beliefs about science or does not know any gay peoplewell enough to have talked to them about it for a few moments and realized that it's not a choice. Why would so many people choose a lifestyle thatattracts so much hate and controversy?
2. Gay people can't reproduce, that's true. But given our population growth rates that's not a bad thing. There's a ton of orphans that needparents, and I don't think they mind if they're both dudes. Also, some people are born infertile. Should they be allowed to marry?
3. And I can't believe people still make this argument-- why should someone's rights be dictated by someone else's religious beliefs?


Seriously, I dare anyone to find a rational argument to argue against any of the #+%% I just said.

 

[the minister]

Originally Posted by ProducedByTheJuice

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by gambit215

once u open doors to tolerate a LIFESTYLE in which people DECIDE to participate in oral and anal sex with the same gender, you open pandoras box to God knows other perverted things people will say should be allowed because it makes them `happy`

I mean homosexuality has been taboo for hundreds of years but all of a sudden its cool...................whatever man, where do you draw the line? I mean I live by facts, if two male any other animals started screwing around we would say, hey thats not normal, lets establish some consistency people

Its not wrong to be homosexual, but its WRONG to be gay, i know some of you will say, isnt that the same thing? but its not, it sooooooooooooooo isnt

Damn, talk about your slippery slopes...

homie trailed off at the end but he has a point. like i said before, its the agenda attached to it.

Several points that I think sum up this entire argument:

People who are against gay marriage claim:
1. Gay people choose to be gay
2. They can't reproduce, so it's unnatural and wrong
3. It says in the Bible that marriage is between a man and a woman, so they shouldn't be allowed to marry

To which I say:
1. Gay people do NOT choose to be gay. Anyone who tries to make this argument either has extremely rigid beliefs about science or does not know any gay people well enough to have talked to them about it for a few moments and realized that it's not a choice. Why would so many people choose a lifestyle that attracts so much hate and controversy?
2. Gay people can't reproduce, that's true. But given our population growth rates that's not a bad thing. There's a ton of orphans that need parents, and I don't think they mind if they're both dudes. Also, some people are born infertile. Should they be allowed to marry?
3. And I can't believe people still make this argument-- why should someone's rights be dictated by someone else's religious beliefs?


Seriously, I dare anyone to find a rational argument to argue against any of the #+%% I just said.

because that !*$! is gross

 

[ratxaxtat]

Well peas are gross. What the hell does it being gross have to do with you and your life?

 

[cwrite78]

maybe the fact that he has the mentality of a 10 year old and can't actually come up with a rational argument.. so he relies on 'it's gross'even though it has nothing to do with his life since he does not participate in a gay marriage/relationship.

 

[the minister]

Originally Posted by CWrite78

maybe the fact that he has the mentality of a 10 year old and can't actually come up with a rational argument.. so he relies on 'it's gross' even though it has nothing to do with his life since he does not participate in a gay marriage/relationship.

you do?

 

[cwrite78]

um, what does that have to do with me? but to answer your question.. i'm not gay.. i don't think gay people are 'gross' either.

 

[jsindaa]

Originally Posted by ProducedByTheJuice

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by gambit215

once u open doors to tolerate a LIFESTYLE in which people DECIDE to participate in oral and anal sex with the same gender, you open pandoras box to God knows other perverted things people will say should be allowed because it makes them `happy`

I mean homosexuality has been taboo for hundreds of years but all of a sudden its cool...................whatever man, where do you draw the line? I mean I live by facts, if two male any other animals started screwing around we would say, hey thats not normal, lets establish some consistency people

Its not wrong to be homosexual, but its WRONG to be gay, i know some of you will say, isnt that the same thing? but its not, it sooooooooooooooo isnt

Damn, talk about your slippery slopes...

homie trailed off at the end but he has a point. like i said before, its the agenda attached to it.

Several points that I think sum up this entire argument:

People who are against gay marriage claim:
1. Gay people choose to be gay
2. They can't reproduce, so it's unnatural and wrong
3. It says in the Bible that marriage is between a man and a woman, so they shouldn't be allowed to marry

To which I say:
1. Gay people do NOT choose to be gay. Anyone who tries to make this argument either has extremely rigid beliefs about science or does not know any gay people well enough to have talked to them about it for a few moments and realized that it's not a choice. Why would so many people choose a lifestyle that attracts so much hate and controversy?
2. Gay people can't reproduce, that's true. But given our population growth rates that's not a bad thing. There's a ton of orphans that need parents, and I don't think they mind if they're both dudes. Also, some people are born infertile. Should they be allowed to marry?
3. And I can't believe people still make this argument-- why should someone's rights be dictated by someone else's religious beliefs?


Seriously, I dare anyone to find a rational argument to argue against any of the #+%% I just said.

Got you

1) If it's not a choice then what is it? I've seen hetero males/females become homosexual and vice versa....and only when they went from hetero to $%*%do they say...I've always been this way. 7 year olds aren't going around liking the same sex because they just like the same sex, they pick it up fromSOMEWHERE and decide they want to follow it. Just like all the other habits they have. You don't see newborns liking the same sex....but of course when youare gay, you were born like that

. Everything in life is adecision...concious or sub concious.

2) You don't plug a plug into...another plug. It goes in a socket....catch my drift.

3) We live in a country that was established on some christian beliefs so..................that would be why some religious beliefs dictate our laws.

 

[mfury]

Originally Posted by JsindaA

As wild as it seems if you let this happen then you'll have loonies screaming for rights because they are "in love" with their animals.

AGAIN with the slippery slope fallacy. You can think it's immoral all you want, that's fine. But I always have to laugh when people saystuff like, "Gay people getting married is gonna lead to them wanting to marry animals. Or inanimate objects." There is a BIG difference there. Whether you think gay sex is gross or unnatural or immoral, two people are consenting to that. An animal can't consent to get married.

Again, if you think it's immoral, that's fine. If you yourself don't choose to recognize their union, that's fine. But at the end of the day,they're not hurting anyone, or doing anything that harms you, so why is it such an issue. Let them live their lives and be happy.

 

[bns1201]

Originally Posted by CWrite78

Originally Posted by bns1201

CWrite78 wrote:

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FreshPrince wrote:

---

The Minister wrote:

---

cuz its gross

but yet, you have at some point choked your chicken to lesbian porn. double standards much? and what's so gross about it? you going into people's
houses and watching them live? they trying to put it in your +%+?






Evan: You could always subscribe to a site like Perfect Ten. I mean that could be anything, it could be a bowling site.


Seth: Yeah, but it doesn't actually show %#+! going in which is a huge concern.


Evan: Right, I didn't realize that.


Seth: Besides, have you ever seen a vagina by itself?


Evan: No.


Seth: [shakes his head] Not for me.






Replace seth with me, and thats how i feel....youre double standards stuff is null and void in my case.



what the !$*% are you talking about



hhahaah my bad on the lack of clarification

 

[jsindaa]

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by JsindaA

As wild as it seems if you let this happen then you'll have loonies screaming for rights because they are "in love" with their animals.

AGAIN with the slippery slope fallacy. You can think it's immoral all you want, that's fine. But I always have to laugh when people say stuff like, "Gay people getting married is gonna lead to them wanting to marry animals. Or inanimate objects." There is a BIG difference there. Whether you think gay sex is gross or unnatural or immoral, two people are consenting to that. An animal can't consent to get married.

Again, if you think it's immoral, that's fine. If you yourself don't choose to recognize their union, that's fine. But at the end of the day, they're not hurting anyone, or doing anything that harms you, so why is it such an issue. Let them live their lives and be happy.

I never once said an animal could. I'm saying there are crazies out here that will say hey I love my dog so I wanna marry it. It'sincredibly stupid....and incredibly feasible. 80 years ago this wasn't even close to being the issue that it is now.

 

[mfury]

Originally Posted by JsindaA

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by JsindaA

As wild as it seems if you let this happen then you'll have loonies screaming for rights because they are "in love" with their animals.

AGAIN with the slippery slope fallacy. You can think it's immoral all you want, that's fine. But I always have to laugh when people say stuff like, "Gay people getting married is gonna lead to them wanting to marry animals. Or inanimate objects." There is a BIG difference there. Whether you think gay sex is gross or unnatural or immoral, two people are consenting to that. An animal can't consent to get married.

Again, if you think it's immoral, that's fine. If you yourself don't choose to recognize their union, that's fine. But at the end of the day, they're not hurting anyone, or doing anything that harms you, so why is it such an issue. Let them live their lives and be happy.

I never once said an animal could. I'm saying there are crazies out here that will say hey I love my dog so I wanna marry it. It's incredibly stupid....and incredibly feasible. 80 years ago this wasn't even close to being the issue that it is now.

Yeah, and that should be illegal because an animal can't consent. That's not really comparable to gays because two gays can consent.

 

[ratxaxtat]

at comparing sex with an animal to sex with another human being.
Or are gay people no longer human?

 

[jsindaa]

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by JsindaA

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by JsindaA

As wild as it seems if you let this happen then you'll have loonies screaming for rights because they are "in love" with their animals.

AGAIN with the slippery slope fallacy. You can think it's immoral all you want, that's fine. But I always have to laugh when people say stuff like, "Gay people getting married is gonna lead to them wanting to marry animals. Or inanimate objects." There is a BIG difference there. Whether you think gay sex is gross or unnatural or immoral, two people are consenting to that. An animal can't consent to get married.

Again, if you think it's immoral, that's fine. If you yourself don't choose to recognize their union, that's fine. But at the end of the day, they're not hurting anyone, or doing anything that harms you, so why is it such an issue. Let them live their lives and be happy.

I never once said an animal could. I'm saying there are crazies out here that will say hey I love my dog so I wanna marry it. It's incredibly stupid....and incredibly feasible. 80 years ago this wasn't even close to being the issue that it is now.

Yeah, and that should be illegal because an animal can't consent. That's not really comparable to gays because two gays can consent.

I'm not comparing....I'm just saying you're kinda opening a can of worms. I don't think it should be legal....nor do I think itshould ever be an issue....just saying, thats the next stop on the road.

 

[pj and bompton]

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by SiMPLYDiMPLY

Originally Posted by keepzdasneakz

Originally Posted by carlosdapaperboy

because marriage is sacred and should only be between a man and a woman.

I don't understand how sacred something married is when it's so easily forsaken, as shown in US divorce rate data.

i find it that many people are just too encumbered with emotion to logically evaluate situations.

i am all for gay rights and everything, and as forsaken as marriage is today, we have to respect that marriage is a religious institution and most religions are against homosexuality.

where we have to make a change is with the government; separate church from state and grant the same rights to homosexual civil unions as they do with heterosexual marriages.

jeez..someone with some damn common sense..co-sign on 100% of this quote.

and for the record, most people aren't against the union of 2 gay people as opposed to the "agenda" its gonna bring on society..people have a problem when you try to normalize homosexuality, because quite frankly its not normal.

It's not normal to who, you? %%$%@ with that and open your eyes just because something isn't normal to you doesn't mean it's notnormal to someone else...

 

[producedbythejuice]

Originally Posted by JsindaA

Originally Posted by ProducedByTheJuice

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by mFury

Originally Posted by gambit215

once u open doors to tolerate a LIFESTYLE in which people DECIDE to participate in oral and anal sex with the same gender, you open pandoras box to God knows other perverted things people will say should be allowed because it makes them `happy`

I mean homosexuality has been taboo for hundreds of years but all of a sudden its cool...................whatever man, where do you draw the line? I mean I live by facts, if two male any other animals started screwing around we would say, hey thats not normal, lets establish some consistency people

Its not wrong to be homosexual, but its WRONG to be gay, i know some of you will say, isnt that the same thing? but its not, it sooooooooooooooo isnt

Damn, talk about your slippery slopes...

homie trailed off at the end but he has a point. like i said before, its the agenda attached to it.

Several points that I think sum up this entire argument:

People who are against gay marriage claim:
1. Gay people choose to be gay
2. They can't reproduce, so it's unnatural and wrong
3. It says in the Bible that marriage is between a man and a woman, so they shouldn't be allowed to marry

To which I say:
1. Gay people do NOT choose to be gay. Anyone who tries to make this argument either has extremely rigid beliefs about science or does not know any gay people well enough to have talked to them about it for a few moments and realized that it's not a choice. Why would so many people choose a lifestyle that attracts so much hate and controversy?
2. Gay people can't reproduce, that's true. But given our population growth rates that's not a bad thing. There's a ton of orphans that need parents, and I don't think they mind if they're both dudes. Also, some people are born infertile. Should they be allowed to marry?
3. And I can't believe people still make this argument-- why should someone's rights be dictated by someone else's religious beliefs?


Seriously, I dare anyone to find a rational argument to argue against any of the #+%% I just said.

Got you

1) If it's not a choice then what is it? I've seen hetero males/females become homosexual and vice versa....and only when they went from hetero to $%*% do they say...I've always been this way. 7 year olds aren't going around liking the same sex because they just like the same sex, they pick it up from SOMEWHERE and decide they want to follow it. Just like all the other habits they have. You don't see newborns liking the same sex....but of course when you are gay, you were born like that

. Everything in life is a decision...concious or sub concious.

2) You don't plug a plug into...another plug. It goes in a socket....catch my drift.

3) We live in a country that was established on some christian beliefs so..................that would be why some religious beliefs dictate our laws.

1. You don't see a newborn with hair on their balls and a deep voice. Things change as people grow older and different hormones are released. Attraction,as it turns out, is controlled by hormones. Did you know that? Do you think it might be possible that people who are homosexual have a different balance ofhormones than their heterosexual neighbors? And as for people coming out later in life, this makes perfect sense. It's not that they've all of thesudden decided to be gay, it's probably that they've been gay all along and have chosen to either repress it or not reveal it to anyone. Our society,as "progressive" as you might think, is still not a very gay-friendly place.

2. What you just said has nothing to do with this argument, is childish, and shows how simple minded you are. My second point was that it doesn't matter iftwo people can't propagate life... There are other ways that they can raise children and aid the human race. There are a lot of orphans in Californiaalone, the vast majority of whom would love any family that wants them.

3. Yes, there are Christian beliefs instilled in our country's laws. Does this mean that when the Constitution doesn't tell us the answer, we shouldopen up the Bible and see what it says in there? Is this honestly what you think? You know as well as I do that in this country the law recognizes and REQUIRESa separation of church and state. While I don't think it's wrong to live by Christian values, and I believe that following the Bible will help guidepeople to treat each other better, etc., it is extremely presumptuous and downright ignorant to think that your own religious beliefs should be the solereasoning for passing a US law that imposes guidelines on a small group of people who may not necessarily share those same religious beliefs.


I'm not quite sure how you "got me"...

 

[pj and bompton]

real talk, if you are voting yes on 8 you are straight up ignorant IDGAF this shouldn't even be about religion, religion SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PART TO DOWITH THE GOVERNMENT...history shows countries based on religion have failed...

my main point is though, this is about DISCRIMINATION, and the only thing stopping it from being that is the basis that religion is "right" andanything not following religion is wrong...

to those commercials about them teaching gay marriage in schools...##*$$#$!. you guys know damn well they don't teach STRAIGHT marriage in schools i knowNO ONE who was taught marriage in school...