Whether You Like it or not our Government does things not in our best interest

[trynafeelmink]

Protestor in Ferguson who claims that agent provocateurs are on the ground in Ferguson and could potentially be starting problems in order to initiate Marshall Law in Ferguson. (Which was already once used in the Chris Dorner chase). Now before you dismiss this as "conspiracy" take a look at the calculated efforts the USA has went through to cover it's own tail or to ignite situations.

 

[rillo561]

There's no theory behind agent provocateurs, it's fact now. I wouldn't doubt it for one second they are being used in this situation.

 

[trynafeelmink]

and despite the amount of times it's pointed out and talked about people will still claim conspiracy as if this isn't a tactic constantly used by this government.

 

[mrrolex]

Agent Provacator

 

[trynafeelmink]

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/23/for...st_own_this_issue_and_fix_this_injustice_now/

The drug war is an issue in this campaign, but it ought to be front and center. America’s war on drugs hasn’t worked – for anyone. It’s been a boon to the pharmaceutical companies, who don’t want the competition, and to the prison-industrial complex, who profit from locking up nonviolent offenders, but it’s been a disaster for everyone else.

The April cover story of Harper’s magazine explains not just how counterproductive the drug war has been but also, and perhaps more importantly, its racist roots. Written by Dan Baum, the article lays out the case for legalization, which is worth absorbing on its own. But it begins with a startling revelation from John Ehrlichman, one of Richard Nixon’s close aides and a Watergate co-conspirator.

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This quote is from 1994, when Baum was writing a book about drug prohibition. Baum tracked Ehrlichman down, hoping to get some insight into the drug war, which began in earnest during Nixon’s administration. Ehrlichman’s explanation was surprisingly blunt:

“You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black people, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

There you have it, folks. The needless incarceration of a generation of brown and black men was not an unfortunate byproduct of the drug war – it was precisely the point. The wholesale destruction of communities was a tactical decision made by Nixon to erode and undermine his political opposition. The drug war was nothing more than a cynical tool, a diversion. And yet the war on drugs has persisted ever since, like a Frankensteinian monster eating away at the soul of our criminal justice system.

It’s a great mystery that neither party has had the courage to own this issue. As Baum writes, it’s sitting right there in plain sight, waiting to be seized:

“Depending on how the issue is framed, legalization of all drugs can appeal to conservatives, who are instinctively suspicious of bloated budgets, excess government authority, and intrusions on individual liberty, as well as to liberals, who are horrified at police overreach, the brutalization of Latin America, and the criminalization of an entire generation of black men. It will take some courage to move the conversation beyond marijuana to ending all drug prohibition, but it will take less, I suspect, than most politicians believe.”

We’ve been waging this misbegotten war for nearly half a century, with objectively horrid results. Thankfully, there are states leading the way on this issue – Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Alaska, and D.C. have all legalized pot, and many more states are likely to follow suit. But it’s not enough. And although it starts with marijuana, it has to extend to all drugs.

This isn’t theoretical; we know what happens when countries legalize drugs. As Baum points out, the Netherlands, Australia, the Czech Republic and others have legalized pot and in “none of these jurisdictions did marijuana become a health or public-order problem.” In Portugal, moreover, all drugs were decriminalized in 2001 – including cocaine and heroin. The results, Baum notes, “have been astounding.” The data is consistent and clear: legalization doesn’t lead to massive spikes in drug use, but it does save money, destroy black markets, and reduce addiction rates by promoting more rehabilitation.

It’s high time the presidential candidates took a more aggressive stand on drugs. With the exception of Rand Paul, who was promptly booted from his party, the Republicans are hopeless on this front. To his great credit, Bernie Sanders has said we must “rethink” the failed war on drugs, and he’s introduced legislation to take pot out of the Federal Controlled Substance act. He also supported Vermont’s recent decision to decriminalize marijuana.

Hillary Clinton, regrettably, has been too tepid. She supports a federal relaxation of marijuana research, but that’s not exactly a step towards ending prohibition. “I do support the use of medical marijuana,” she said during the first Democratic debate, “and I think even there we need to do a lot more research so that we know exactly how we’re going to help people for whom medical marijuana provides relief.” This is a symbolic half-measure, the kind of position a moderate Republican would take. It’s not good enough, and Democratic voters ought to demand more.

Its racist and political origins aside, the drug war has been an abject failure – morally, legally, economically. It has to end, and Democrats must lead the way. If Clinton is the nominee, as she appears to be, she should be asked to clarify her position on drugs over and over and over again, until she finally arrives at a sane and defensible position. It’s the right thing to do, and, as Baum pointed out, it doesn’t require much political courage. This is an issue waiting to be owned by one of the two parties – let it be the Democrats.

I know this story was posted on NT, but this is yet ANOTHER instance of America straight lying to the people.

 

[jthagreat]

^^ upsetting, but it has long been known.

SMH

 

[doublemesh96]

I'm still amazed at people who think the govt has our best interest in mind.

 

[ben roethlisberger]

P4l

 

[trynafeelmink]

In the Age of Trump & all the ssmokescreens he's throwing now, i think this article is fitting


Caitlin Johnstone
Rogue journalist, poet, and utopia prepper.
Sep 10
Never Forget: The US Government Has A Known History Of Using False Flags

When it comes to 9/11, there are two groups of people: those who don’t know exactly what happened, and those who orchestrated it.

Nearly everyone on earth belongs in the former category, but a lot of folks like to pretend they have a rock solid understanding of the events which transpired on that fateful day in 2001. Scoffing mainstream adherents like to pretend they’re confident that the official narrative is accurate, but they aren’t. A lot of hardcore conspiracy analysts like to pretend they know the real story, but they don’t. There’s simply not enough publicly available information for anyone to be certain exactly how things went down that day; all we can know for sure is that (A) the official story is riddled with plot holes, and (B) the American power establishment has an extensive and well-documented history of using false flags and propaganda to manipulate the public into supporting evil acts of military interventionism.


https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
If you think you know for a fact that the official story of what happened on September 11, 2001 is the true account and that all conspiracy theories have been “debunked”, you are ignorant. If you think you know the precise details of how what really happened differs from the official story, you’ve spent way too much time diving down conspiracy theory rabbit holes and should probably ease off the weed. There’s no need to get all defensive and go bedding yourself down to one hard doctrine of certainty when the US power establishment has already discredited itself so thoroughly. It’s unnecessary to plunge deep into theory when these people’s track record is so firmly established in fact.

Here are just a few of the times the US government is known to have distorted the reality of events in order to manufacture public support for military intervention, which is per definition what a false flag is:

The False Nayirah Testimony

On October 10, 1990 a 15 year-old girl known only as Nayirah testified before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus about the horrors that Iraqi troops were inflicting upon the people of Kuwait. Her testimony that hundreds of babies had been taken out of their incubators and left to die on hospital floors was repeated as fact by Amnesty International, the mass media, numerous senators, and President H. W. Bush, tugging at the heartstrings of America and manufacturing support for American action in the Gulf War.

It was a lie. Nayirah was in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the US, and her TV-friendly “removing babies from incubators” testimony was false. It never happened.

Former CIA Director Bush with the Kuwaiti Ambassador, who watched his daughter’s false testimony before congress
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident

In 2005 a declassified historical study by the NSA revealed that one of the two incidents which were used to propel America into the disastrous Vietnam War happened the opposite of the way it was reported to have happened, and the second of the two incidents did not happen at all. The allegation that there were “deliberate” and “unprovoked” attacks upon the US Navy in the Gulf of Tonkin on August 2 and August 4 of 1964 was solemnly affirmed by President Johnson, which led to the swift passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolutionauthorizing full presidential authority to commit US military power to the Vietnamese intervention.

In reality the August 2 incident was not in any way “unprovoked”, and it was in fact America’s USS Maddox which fired upon North Vietnamese boats first. On August 4 there was no engagement with any ships whatsoever, with Johnson privately admitting a year later that “For all I know, our navy was shooting at whales out there.”

The USS Maine

“But when the smoke was over, the dead buried and the cost of the war came back to the people in an increase in the price of commodities and rent — that is, when we sobered up from our patriotic spree — it suddenly dawned on us that the cause of the Spanish-American War was the price of sugar.”
~ Emma Goldman
This goes way back. The video above describes how the Spanish-American war was brought on by a highly suspicious explosion upon the USS Maine while it was docked at the Havana Harbor in 1898, combined with the anti-Spain narratives of the plutocrat-owned newspapers of that time. Like all US wars, it was extremely profitable and benefitted the very rich.

This tradition of using lies to rally the unwashed masses behind military endeavors on behalf of the rich and powerful has probably been going on since the dawn of civilization, and it is only humanity’s increasing adeptness at networking and sharing information which has enabled us to begin catching on to the deceitful manipulations of the people who rule us. Our history books are doubtless riddled with countless inaccuracies as to the real reasons underlying violent conflicts between various kingdoms and factions, because the few literate people who were permitted to write the official historic accounts of them had full control of the narrative at the time.


This is why we’ve been seeing increasingly blatant panic from existing power structures about alternative media. Whoever controls the narrative controls the world. It is only by general societal consensus that power exists where it exists, that money works the way it works, etc. At any time the public could stop honoring existing power structures and create an entirely different model for itself, deciding to distribute resources and allocate responsibilities in a way that benefits more people more efficaciously than the current paradigm. It is only by their ability to manipulate and control the mainstream narrative that powerful people have been able to keep this from happening.

If the power elites didn’t need the consent of the public to rule, they wouldn’t have to lie constantly about their reasons for war. The public would never consent to military interventions if politicians were allowed to appear on CNN and say “Yeah well America has become a stronghold for the most powerful plutocracy in the history of civilization and it needs to maintain its status as the world’s only superpower in order to protect the investments of that plutocracy. This is why we have to keep knocking the pillars of support out from underneath Russia and China, and why I get millions in re-election campaign donations.”

For Those Who Don't 'Believe' In 'Conspiracies' Here Are 58 Admitted False Flag Attacks
"False flag terrorism" occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces…educateinspirechange.org
My more pessimistic readers won’t like hearing this, but the reality is that Americans are basically good people who generally want what’s best for the world. If they weren’t, the unelected power establishment which rules over them wouldn’t have to keep making up lies about babies in incubators and protecting their family from Weapons of Mass Destruction in order to secure US hegemony. If they ever told the public the truth, they’d be dealing with hundreds of millions of heavily-armed Americans telling them to get their sociopathic asses out of here.


What this means is that those of us who want what’s best for America and the world instead of endless war and economic oppression are necessarily locked in a media war with the plutocracy and its cronies. The populist alternative media owned and operated by ordinary people is the natural enemy of the plutocrat-owned mainstream media designed to prop up the existing power structure with establishment propaganda. Our ability to win this media war increases the more networked and internet-literate our society becomes, which is why the oligarchs have been working overtime to shut us down with corporate censorship.

There is no reason to believe anything these lying sociopaths say, especially not about something that has served such a crucial role in their openly stated agenda to ensure US dominance over the world using its military and economic might. When you’ve got the extremely influential neoconservative think tank Project for the New American Century saying in September of 2000 that it would require “a new Pearl Harbor” to advance this agenda, and then getting exactly that one year later in an American tragedy which was used to manufacture support for greatly expanded US military interventionism, there’s no good reason to take all that in with a trusting “Yeah, that sounds legit.”


These people are liars, and they are depraved. They have no problem using lies to kill a million Iraqis and thousands of US soldiers to advance their agendas, and there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t kill US civilians as well. There’s no harm in familiarizing yourself with all the details about the various conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 if that’s what you want to spend your brainpower on, but really all you need to know is that these people are known liars who have no problem slaughtering countless people to advance their agenda of global domination. There is no reason to trust them and many reasons not to. End of.

 

[trynafeelmink]

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[nawghtyhare]

folks dont wanna listen till its too late

 

[calibeebee]

Yep. 9-11 was a plot devised by the US government as a means to go to the Middle East and steal oil. No doubt in my mind.

 

[doublemesh96]

I find it sad that the thread title is unapparent to most people. Not only do the majority of people not believe that but they believe the opposite. You can’t be saved. I think people who know better shouldn’t waste their time trying to sway your ignorant opinions.

 

[nawghtyhare]

I find it sad that the thread title is unapparent to most people. Not only do the majority of people not believe that but they believe the opposite. You can’t be saved. I think people who know better shouldn’t waste their time trying to sway your ignorant opinions.

whats even wilder
is when black folks dont believe

 

[doublemesh96]

whats even wilder
is when black folks dont believe

For real. At this point in this day and age it’s willful ignorance for the sake of your own habitual comforts. Not wanting to do any critical thinking or deal with any inconvenient truths. I used to try and spread information but now I just keep to myself and let sheep walk off the cliff. We all have our own paths and journeys.

 

[trynafeelmink]

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[trynafeelmink]

I think forcing people to schools & work during a pandemic falls under this as well

 

[frshstunna]

I think forcing people to schools & work during a pandemic falls under this as well

Why didn’t you post this in Spring 2020 when the ppl in charge at the time decided COVID was a “hoax” and led the push to get folks “back outside” ?

 

[trynafeelmink]

I'm confused, what about my statement leads you to believe that i didn't believe the government wasn't out for our best interest then?

From the inception of this pandemic the government has shown very little concern regarding the people & the long term effects of covid (outside of the actual virus).

Simply on par with everything else this nation does

 

[NToweG]

> Humanity

 

[trynafeelmink]

Been Watching Dopesick recently & the fact that trust the science has become a thing in current times is hilarious

 

[trynafeelmink]

https://www.businessinsider.com/law...vid-19-related-stocks-during-pandemic-2021-12

Surely this can't be a conflict of interest , this country is Jokes man.

 

[trynafeelmink]

the remains of USA "democracy" in other nations

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

the remains of USA "democracy" in other nations

damn this is hectic

 

[trynafeelmink]

https://www.investopedia.com/ny-fed-works-on-cbdc-6829573

The CBDC coin is something i fully expect to belong in this thread if it the have their way.