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Originally Posted by sillyputty
This is the problem here.Originally Posted by rashi
Originally Posted by sillyputty
Do you know how molecules just randomly coagulate?
Then form lipid membranes? Hydrophobic tails with hydrophilic heads on lipids?
What/Who gave them the instructions to coagulate and proliferate?
What do you mean by "instructions?"
You have to abstract your thinking to realize that what you mean by "blueprint" may not actually exist... granted we are still learning about how things work, but to say that there is a "plan" isn't really accurate. Sometimes things are more favored than other things in terms of energetic conformation. Not everything goes the way we think it should. Its better to OBSERVE than to EXPECT. That way you don't allow your bias to interfere with what occurs and you can actually make accurate conclusions that don't sway data collection.
When we talk about energy, there is a particular confirmation of the orientation of an item that is favored. It tends to be the state of the lowest energy. For example, things like phospholipids...
They have long hydrophobic tails... when placed in water, the tails are not polar like the water molecules and thus try to escape their unfavorable state. They can't mix very well...so what the hydrophobic tails do is they find other hydrophobic items and try to stick together... thus what happens is a bunch of hydrophobic tails end up facing each other and form a spherical object that resembles a micelle. Its a single layer of phospholipids with long hydrophobic tails that face inwards and polar hydrophilic tails that stick outwards towards the polar water environment. If you try to disrupt that sphere they've made tehy just try to form the micelle again...When you use detergent, it uses long hydrophobic molecules to break up these lipids tails and has heavily polar heads that mix with water and thus get washed away...for example...
Every thing likes to be in its lowest energy state...thats why certain enzymes have particular conformations...if you add an amino acid or remove one the whole shape is thrown off because the interaction of the underlying molecules and structures are out of sync and thus the structure as a whole can't stand.
You ask what created energy? I don't know... I really don't. But to assert things involve "instructions" isn't an analogous or accurate portrayal of these situations. It implies some sort of designer...when in fact you have no more reason to assert that than for you WANT there to be one.
When we talk about cells and embryology and how they get signals to proliferate and move to certain areas or how the immune system works you're talking about chemotaxis and extracellular signaling...i suggest for that you look into a microbiology course...this is somewhat moving the discussion into another topic.
To assert that things have a purpose doesn't make it more true. Things exist as far as we know only because they do. We have a way of thinking that wants us to be able to say we know everything...and there is nothing wrong with that...the problem is incorrectly or unjustifiably making assertions based on no evidence and then moving forward and building on a series of unverified claims.
I hate to quote this but its so true "god grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference" ...Whether or not you believe in a god, society has to move towards understanding the extent of our knowledge and what we can actually know verifiably...this is the study of epistemology.
You have no clue of what you are talking about. Seriously, no clue.
I have a Doctorate in Health Sciences and a Masters of Medical Sciences. I have taken every class you can think of RE: Embryology, molecular biology, physiology, pathology, ect. I have done vast research on stem cells and even helped MDs write published work.
Everything in your body has instructions, if it doesn't it is because of some sort of pathology. They don't happen because as you say:
Things exist as far as we know only because they do.
This is ridiculous. I adjunct for my alma mater in some semesters, if a student gave me a research paper with this to explain the inflammatory process or proliferation of neoplasms would automatically fail and I wouldn't even waste my time to give you an explanation.