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Originally Posted by manamazing55
you just proved my point. Everything you just said has been totally disproven by his athletic tests, and the fact that he performed on the court. He lacks explosion, but he clearly is not stiff or awkward.Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
but he's a stiff, awkward athlete that doesn't move around very well or explode in traffic...
Explain to me how he averaged 20 and 8 for his career. Won a NPOY award. Won a national championship. Commanded double teams for 4 years.?
Originally Posted by Im Not You
/\ You reading those tests a little closely dude...
Those combine results also say that Jordan Farmar is in Derrick Rose's class athletically too.
the irony in that bolded area up there isOriginally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
It's not the fact that youre disagreeing with me, its the ludicrousness of your statements. Ty Lawson is a better pure PG and team leader than Jonny Flynn? Tyler Hansbrough is about the same as Blake Griffin except that Griffin has more athletic ability and weakside defense?
Again, he absolutely is stiff and awkward in traffic... Jumping under a vert test pole with nobody around you in a pre-draft workout doesn'tchange that... Watch him operate in traffic, and that vertical jump is damn near a non-factor... Wonder why... It ain't because he's a smooth, fluidathlete...Originally Posted by manamazing55
you just proved my point. Everything you just said has been totally disproven by his athletic tests, and the fact that he performed on the court. He lacks explosion, but he clearly is not stiff or awkward.
Explain to me how he averaged 20 and 8 for his career. Won a NPOY award. Won a national championship. Commanded double teams for 4 years.?
Originally Posted by 5am6oody72
What's hilarious to me is that none of the great career stats and accomplishments he's pointing out change the fact that teams were more scared of Ed Davis come tournament time than they were of
Hansbrough.![]()
Hansbrough was a good player who (albeit unorthodoxically) knew how to score pretty well in college. Problem is, most of what he does won't fly in the NBA. He's not going to be able to awkwardly flail his way through traffic without 1) getting stripped, 2)getting an offensive foul called. All those free throws he shot in college? Not gonna happen in the league. Those awkward shots he flips up after contact are about all he's got. He is also a great shooter for a big man, I'll give him that. But teams aren't going to want their PF to chill and shoot 15 footers all day.
BTW he's not touching 20 ppg if he plays with a bunch of scrubs/not on UNC. He got ticky tack calls for DAYS and as far as I know set the all time free throw record in the ACC.
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Again, he absolutely is stiff and awkward in traffic... Jumping under a vert test pole with nobody around you in a pre-draft workout doesn't change that... Watch him operate in traffic, and that vertical jump is damn near a non-factor... Wonder why... It ain't because he's a smooth, fluid athlete...Originally Posted by manamazing55
you just proved my point. Everything you just said has been totally disproven by his athletic tests, and the fact that he performed on the court. He lacks explosion, but he clearly is not stiff or awkward.
Explain to me how he averaged 20 and 8 for his career. Won a NPOY award. Won a national championship. Commanded double teams for 4 years.?
And you can be a majorly successful college basketball player with Tyler's shortcomings... There are FAR more talented/athletic/whatever college basketball players than Tyler Hansbrough that weren't successful NBA players...
His skill set and the way he scored the basketball in college don't translate well to the NBA... If you care to refute that, I'd love to hear why...
Put up your NT SN or money via paypal. I GUARANTEE Flynn will be a All Star PG in 2-3 yearsOriginally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
the irony in that bolded area up there isOriginally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
It's not the fact that youre disagreeing with me, its the ludicrousness of your statements. Ty Lawson is a better pure PG and team leader than Jonny Flynn? Tyler Hansbrough is about the same as Blake Griffin except that Griffin has more athletic ability and weakside defense?... so youre telling me flynn is going to be a better pure pg than ty lawson? man go back to school or something ... flynn will SUCK on the nba level ...![]()
Originally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
Put up your NT SN or money via paypal. I GUARANTEE Flynn will be a All Star PG in 2-3 yearsOriginally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
the irony in that bolded area up there isOriginally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
It's not the fact that youre disagreeing with me, its the ludicrousness of your statements. Ty Lawson is a better pure PG and team leader than Jonny Flynn? Tyler Hansbrough is about the same as Blake Griffin except that Griffin has more athletic ability and weakside defense?... so youre telling me flynn is going to be a better pure pg than ty lawson? man go back to school or something ... flynn will SUCK on the nba level ...![]()
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
Originally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
Put up your NT SN or money via paypal. I GUARANTEE Flynn will be a All Star PG in 2-3 yearsOriginally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
the irony in that bolded area up there isOriginally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
It's not the fact that youre disagreeing with me, its the ludicrousness of your statements. Ty Lawson is a better pure PG and team leader than Jonny Flynn? Tyler Hansbrough is about the same as Blake Griffin except that Griffin has more athletic ability and weakside defense?... so youre telling me flynn is going to be a better pure pg than ty lawson? man go back to school or something ... flynn will SUCK on the nba level ...
someone print screen this bum ... pure comedy ...![]()
I already have this ready to fire back at him at the end of next seasonOriginally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
Originally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
Put up your NT SN or money via paypal. I GUARANTEE Flynn will be a All Star PG in 2-3 yearsOriginally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
the irony in that bolded area up there isOriginally Posted by Laced Up Jordans
It's not the fact that youre disagreeing with me, its the ludicrousness of your statements. Ty Lawson is a better pure PG and team leader than Jonny Flynn? Tyler Hansbrough is about the same as Blake Griffin except that Griffin has more athletic ability and weakside defense?... so youre telling me flynn is going to be a better pure pg than ty lawson? man go back to school or something ... flynn will SUCK on the nba level ...
someone print screen this bum ... pure comedy ...![]()
Originally Posted by Bigmike23
harden is NOT droping to 9