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Originally Posted by Al3xis
Full circle. Greatest day as a Knick fan in YEARS if it's finalized/
Basically summed up what I was thinking while catching up on the last couple pages.Originally Posted by DubA169
thisOriginally Posted by Al3xis
I'm not gona argue about him wanting to win, it is clear he'd rather get a check and a place he can play significantly.
that's why im not one of 'his people'...i've never thought his game was conducive to being the man on a championship team, anyway.
But for this team? this situation? It makes sense, for all parties involved.
people act like the knicks signed him for 5 years 55 million. relax folks, it's all for the show.
Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01
Basically summed up what I was thinking while catching up on the last couple pages.Originally Posted by DubA169
thisOriginally Posted by Al3xis
I'm not gona argue about him wanting to win, it is clear he'd rather get a check and a place he can play significantly.
that's why im not one of 'his people'...i've never thought his game was conducive to being the man on a championship team, anyway.
But for this team? this situation? It makes sense, for all parties involved.
people act like the knicks signed him for 5 years 55 million. relax folks, it's all for the show.
I dont know why because he doesnt have a championship he "doesnt want to win". I mean Is it really a bad thing that he still feels that he can play at an all star level and I think he still can. Rather than basically calling it a wrap and ring chasing.
I mean would some of ya that are hating respect him more if he just ring chased and hopped onto a Lakers\Cavs\Magic or Celtics team. I respect him more for sticking by his guns trying to prove that he still has something left in the tank to add to a team rather than take the Payton\Malone route and try to let someone else win them a championship. I think Iverson is the kinda guy where if he isnt the reason the team gets the title then it wouldnt seem right to him. Why do you think it was so important for Kobe to get a title without shaq. He was tired of the Shaq got you your rings arguement. And if Iverson ring chased (what it seems like a lot of you want him to do) he would never hear the end of him not being able to get the title by himself and he had to have some1 else win it for him.
The knicks are the perfect fit for him in the situation that he is in right now. They will give him a chance to showcase that he can still be that number 1 option type guy. And the Knicks get to give their fans a reason to watch this year.
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07
as they say in france, look how well ring chasing worked out for karl malone ... ... ...
Your homerism is pureOriginally Posted by THE GR8
you missed my point. Cause if you read what i wrote you see that i acknowledged that Marbury had the attitude problem, but STILL took us to the playoffs in 2 years. If youre gonna compare them in terms of attitude you gotta compare them in terms of skill also. And if AI can do what Marbury did in his first year with this team, and put up those #s and find a way to get into the playoffs, that is far more than any Knicks fan could imagine, and he really should be an MVP candidateOriginally Posted by FIRST B0RN
You missed the point; I was referring to the attitude problem.Originally Posted by THE GR8
Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Stephon Marbury 2.0
alot of yall are really quick to diss Marbury and classify AI with him.So if you gonna copmpare AI with Marbs like alot of yall are REAL quick to do, you gotta look at the success part along with the attitude
Exactly.Originally Posted by Al3xis
CP,
We really could give a damn what his motives are.
He helps the team. Bottom line.
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07
cp, youre missing the fact that ai is better than everyone in the league not named kobe or lebron ...
yeah that sure was a great defense of your argumentOriginally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Your homerism is pureOriginally Posted by THE GR8
you missed my point. Cause if you read what i wrote you see that i acknowledged that Marbury had the attitude problem, but STILL took us to the playoffs in 2 years. If youre gonna compare them in terms of attitude you gotta compare them in terms of skill also. And if AI can do what Marbury did in his first year with this team, and put up those #s and find a way to get into the playoffs, that is far more than any Knicks fan could imagine, and he really should be an MVP candidateOriginally Posted by FIRST B0RN
You missed the point; I was referring to the attitude problem.Originally Posted by THE GR8
Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Stephon Marbury 2.0
alot of yall are really quick to diss Marbury and classify AI with him.So if you gonna copmpare AI with Marbs like alot of yall are REAL quick to do, you gotta look at the success part along with the attitude
Ok Knick fans, you all love AI now, I get it. So he's great, can do no wrong.
Fine by me.
But he's not a winner. Period. He just wants to play ball so he can shoot all night like it's an empty gym. He don't wanna win, he don't wanna compete, he wants to shoot.
AI IS a winner and a competetor. Damn near the best i ever saw. And i honestly think that if he had to be a 2 or a 3 on a winning team he would, i just dontthink thats his game. Hes just not ready to ride the bench in SA or Boston to win a ring. I can respect that. If i still i felt had all-star potential id tryand be a starter and prove it also. And than bedst case he proves hes still a beast in his 1 year in NY and he can either resign next summer when we should bea contender or sign with a contender elsewhere and prove himself worthy of a starter.
AI would happily backseat Lebron James if the Cavs offered him a starting role to play with him. Casue that would give him a better chance to win a ring. Hesjust not ready to be on the bench behind Mo Williams and players he thinks hes better than JUST to get the ring. Ya see what im sayin? i dont see how AI cominghere to be a starter cause he still feels he has alot left means he doesnt wanna win, i just dont see it. If a winner offered him a starting role like we were�hed happily accept and backset to a Lebron. Hes just not ready to backseat from the bench.
Originally Posted by PrinSe3
so many fairweather fans on this board. I can just tell half you guys clownin him now were on dudes jock back in the day
THANK YOU.Originally Posted by THE GR8
great rant. I hate how AI is "selfish" for wanting to start and still thinking he still has enough left in the tank to be a starter and an allstar. If anything that is what i respect about AI he stays hungry. He is not ready to hop on to the bench of a championship team like we have seen soooo many stars of recent years do.
Dog, I already said it... Most heads on here seem to only care about stats. Look at the talk about BJ when he went to Europe. And now look at thetalk about BJ after that 55 point game. Not too many people cared about him until he a) scored 55 and b) they saw a screen name thinking BJ is a NTer.Originally Posted by Al3xis
Ironic that there is a 35 page thread about a poor mans AI that is all talk about numbers and has the most amount of +!%$ riding I've ever seen.
If there is a basketball god, THIS will happen.Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
From 3 days ago, in the 'Iverson on waivers' thread:SHUGES:
The Wizard:
Bring him to NY.
he'll have a starting spot & free reign to shoot
Exaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaactly.Originally Posted by THE GR8
AI would happily backseat Lebron James if the Cavs offered him a starting role to play with him. Casue that would give him a better chance to win a ring. Hes just not ready to be on the bench behind Mo Williams and players he thinks hes better than JUST to get the ring.