No United airlines thread ? VOL....Delta won

[everysingletime]

A person's character really has no relevance.

In a hospital that's how we operate. If someone comes in with trauma and needs an operation, a criminal deserves the same medical attention as someone who hasn't committed no crime. Anything less than the standard of care and something goes south, we getting sued either way.



When I work on a mental health unit, we deal with unruly patients all the time. Patients with history of violence and we don't call the cops for every little thing. Doesn't matter if in the patient's history, it shows that he killed his mom. If we beat up that patient and that could've been avoided we getting in deep trouble with the Justice center either way

 

[mf gooze]

when will america stop abusing POC then digging up dirt on them to justify the actions later? when will people stop co-signing this? should be a ban-able offense on NT imo

you really upset about that? All I did was post something relevant to you talking about his patients, its says the man lost his license over a decade ago, Im sorry I overlooked the fact he had it provisionally reinstated so he could work in a doctors office one day a week, if he was gonna miss that one day then I guess he did have priority. They have said some other really bad stuff about him but I didn't post that because it was irrelevant and it's like when they talk about a police shooting vitims criminal record when they got killed in a traffic stop.

 

[kngpin88]

Should have been handled before he boarded the plane period. I have flown all major airlines and it's done at the gate, not when someone has boarded and basically has their seatbelt on and is ready to go. He's getting something, I bet you his phone is ringing off the hook with law firms willing to pick this case up for a cut of that final check.

 

[everysingletime]

Lol he's already represented by two lawyers

 

[friscostylez]

when will america stop abusing POC then digging up dirt on them to justify the actions later? when will people stop co-signing this? should be a ban-able offense on NT imo

you really upset about that? All I did was post something relevant to you talking about his patients, its says the man lost his license over a decade ago, Im sorry I overlooked the fact he had it provisionally reinstated so he could work in a doctors office one day a week, if he was gonna miss that one day then I guess he did have priority. They have said some other really bad stuff about him but I didn't post that because it was irrelevant and it's like when they talk about a police shooting vitims criminal record when they got killed in a traffic stop.

lol at you believing everything you read in a smear campaign

 

[mf gooze]

lol at you believing everything you read in a smear campaign

I'm sure you've got all the facts.View media item 2401876

 

[niketalker23]

I didn't read the thread but I'm honestly asking how you guys would have handled the situation of a passanger not getting off the plane?

 

[mf gooze]

I didn't read the thread but I'm honestly asking how you guys would have handled the situation of a passanger not getting off the plane?

The most common answer is "give them whatever they demand for the inconvenience"

 

[everysingletime]

I didn't read the thread but I'm honestly asking how you guys would have handled the situation of a passanger not getting off the plane?

Sweeten the deal until somebody volunteers. Someone would've eventually bit.

 

[friscostylez]

lol at you believing everything you read in a smear campaign

I'm sure you've got all the facts.View media item 2401876

lol at you getting butthurt enough to find a gif

 

[mf gooze]

lol at you getting butthurt enough to find a gif

I have that gif in my phone, you the one getting upset defending him like he's your dad or something. Report me again

 

[mrbkkt1]

I didn't read the thread but I'm honestly asking how you guys would have handled the situation of a passanger not getting off the plane?

like we do with everything else in the US. First come, first serve.

 

[friscostylez]

lol at you getting butthurt enough to find a gif

I have that gif in my phone, you the one getting upset defending him like he's your dad or something. Report me again

lol at you not being able to comprehend. I never defended him, at least not directly.

 

[Nawzlew]

I didn't read the thread but I'm honestly asking how you guys would have handled the situation of a passanger not getting off the plane?

offer more money.

 

[everysingletime]

I didn't read the thread but I'm honestly asking how you guys would have handled the situation of a passanger not getting off the plane?

offer more money.

It's either that or just buy tickets for their employees on other airline flights

 

[mf gooze]

It's either that or just buy tickets for their employees on other airline flights

That's actually not a bad idea, but I'm sure theres a reason they don't do it (not to say its a good reason). It is a fairly simple solution.

 

[everysingletime]

Damn the airline business is crooked as they come, eh

http://www.latimes.com/business/laz...ed-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html

It’s hard to find examples of worse decision-making and customer treatment than United Airlines having a passenger dragged from an overbooked plane. But United’s shabby treatment of Geoff Fearns, including a threat to place him in handcuffs, comes close.

Fearns, 59, is president of TriPacific Capital Advisors, an Irvine investment firm that handles more than half a billion dollars in real estate holdings on behalf of public pension funds. He had to fly to Hawaii last week for a business conference.

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Fearns needed to return early so he paid about $1,000 for a full-fare, first-class ticket to Los Angeles. He boarded the aircraft at Lihue Airport on the island of Kauai, took his seat and enjoyed a complimentary glass of orange juice while awaiting takeoff.

Then, as Fearns tells it, a United employee rushed onto the aircraft and informed him that he had to get off the plane.

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“I asked why,” he told me. “They said the flight was overfull.”

Fearns, like the doctor at the center of that viral video from Sunday night, held his ground. He was already on the plane, already seated. He shouldn’t have to disembark.

“That’s when they told me they needed the seat for somebody more important who came at the last minute,” Fearns said. “They said they have a priority list and this other person was higher on the list than me.”

They said they’d put me in cuffs if they had to.
— Geoff Fearns
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Apparently United had some mechanical troubles with the aircraft scheduled to make the flight. So the carrier swapped out that plane with a slightly smaller one with fewer first-class seats.

Suddenly it had more first-class passengers than it knew what to do with. So it turned to its “How to Screw Over Customers” handbook and determined that the one in higher standing — more miles flown, presumably — gets the seat and the other first-class passenger, even though he’s also a member of the frequent-flier program, gets the boot.

“I understand you might bump people because a flight is full,” Fearns said. “But they didn’t say anything at the gate. I was already in the seat. And now they were telling me I had no choice. They said they’d put me in cuffs if they had to.”

You couldn’t make this up if you tried.

It shouldn’t make any difference where a passenger is seated or how much he or she paid for their ticket. But you have to admire the sheer chutzpah of United putting the arm on a full-fare, first-class traveler. If there’s anybody whose business you want to safeguard and cultivate, it’s that person.

So how could United possibly make things worse? Not to worry. This is the airline that knows how to add insult to injury.

A United employee, responding to Fearns’ complaint that he shouldn’t have to miss the flight, compromised by downgrading him to economy class and placing him in the middle seat between a married couple who were in the midst of a nasty fight and refused to be seated next to each other.

“They argued the whole way back,” Fearns recalled. “Nearly six hours. It was a lot of fun.”

David Dao, United passenger who was dragged from plane, says he's still in the hospital
David Dao, United passenger who was dragged from plane, says he's still in the hospital
Back in Southern California, he consulted his lawyer and then wrote to United’s chief executive, Oscar Munoz, who commended airline workers after the passenger-dragging incident “for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right.”

Fearns requested a full refund for his flight from Kauai and asked for United to make a $25,000 donation to the charity of his choice. This is how rich guys do it.

He received an email back from a United “corporate customer care specialist” apologizing that Fearns apparently had an unpleasant experience. But, no, forget about a refund.

As for that charitable donation, what are you kidding? A hard no on that.

Instead, the service rep offered to refund Fearns the difference between his first-class ticket and an economy ticket — about a week later, as if that wasn’t the first thing they should do in a situation like this — and to give him a $500 credit for a future trip on the airline.

“Despite the negative experience, we hope to have your continued support,” the rep concluded. “Your business is especially important to us and we'll do our utmost to make your future contacts with United satisfactory in every respect.”

I reached out to United and asked if anyone cared to comment on Fearns’ adventure in corporate catastrophe. No one got back to me.

Julia Underwood, a business professor at Azusa Pacific University, said United’s actions in both the dragged-off-the-plane episode and with Fearns reflect a coldhearted mindset utterly devoid of compassion for customers.

“They’re so locked into their policies, there’s no room for empathy,” she said.

As a result, Underwood said, situations that should be manageable spiral out of control and result in unnecessarily messy PR disasters.

“What United and all companies need to do is to train and empower workers to deal with specific issues as they arise,” she said. “Don’t just follow whatever is written in your policies.”

I couldn’t agree more. United is neck-deep in trouble this week because its workers are clearly out of their depth in handling out-of-the-ordinary events. You have to think someone on the flight crew would have been able to step up, if given the trust and authority to do so by the carrier.

Fearns said three different members of the crew on his middle-seat, economy-class return to L.A. apologized for how he was treated in Hawaii. But they said they were unable to do anything.

He’s now considering a lawsuit against United — and he certainly has the resources to press his case.

I asked if he’ll ever fly United again.

Fearns could only laugh. “Are you kidding?l

Now I don't think this story is as bad as the David Dao story. Rich white guy who's already seated gets downgraded to business class in favor of someone who was even richer than him that wanted to fly that airline at the last minute

Not feeling sorry for the guy but this story just continues to highlight United Airline's shadiness

 

[frink85]

Wait they downgraded him off of a full fare first class ticket and didn't give him the difference off the bat? I believe that's called theft.

 

[everysingletime]

Wait they downgraded him off of a full fare first class ticket and didn't give him the difference off the bat? I believe that's called theft.

Yea they paid him back the difference after a week, along with a 500 dollar voucher

I can't believe they had the gall to threaten a first class ticket holder, who was a frequent flier, with handcuffs when he got there first in lieu of someone who happened to be even richer than him

You got to think if they would do that to him, then NO ONE is safe

 

[Nawzlew]

United bumped a buddy of mine once.

Gave him like 5 vouchers worth $50 each, couldn't be stacked, and had to be used within the year.

 

[everysingletime]

United bumped a buddy of mine once.

Gave him like 5 vouchers worth $50 each, couldn't be stacked, and had to be used within the year.

What the hell 50 dollars going to get you at an airline

I am never ever ever ever flying United. I don't want to be part of another horror story lol

 

[sfc415]

What the hell 50 dollars going to get you at an airline

I am never ever ever ever flying United. I don't want to be part of another horror story lol

they gave me $100 after experiencing a major malfunction over the Atlantic Ocean and delaying me by 12 hours on a two and a half day trip. Didn't bother using that @#$#. I swear their planes always have maintenance issues. Half my flights with them get delayed or cancelled with zero legitimate explanation (I'm forced to fly with them when I go to trash cities in the Midwest for work)

 

[everysingletime]

You can't fly with anyone else to the midwest? lol

 

[sfc415]

I have to go to cities in Nebraska, South Dakota, etc. for work. Their airports basically only have two airlines that go there : United and American. Both TRASH, but I will admit American has gotten sliggghtly better compared to a couple years ago.

 

[chippedtoothsmile]

Bet he rolls up into court like Pac after the first shooting