Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[nick.]

Analytics are only welcomed in here if they help your argument

 

[rolaholic]

Analytics are only welcomed in here if they help your argument

Rule of thumb for this thread

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Saw some brief footage of KD running around a lil bit last night.. sheesh he looks nice and spry 

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Are you there God? It's me, lee. Need to see Milwaukee or Miami v Boston in the first round. For cultural purposes. Amen

Analytics are only welcomed in here if they help your argument

This

 

[P C H]

Saw some brief footage of KD running around a lil bit last night.. sheesh he looks nice and spry 

He would of been back two weeks ago if this were the playoffs I think

Yes I'm a doctor lol

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

He would of been back two weeks ago if this were the playoffs I think

Yes I'm a doctor lol

Opinion on Embiid and Simmons' "injuries" I mean injuries 

 

[nick.]

Saw some brief footage of KD running around a lil bit last night.. sheesh he looks nice and spry 

He was running?

Must be 110% healthy

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

He was dunking too, surprised me a bit tbh

I thought they were being bold by saying he'd be back.. the wanting to watch the world burn in me thought he'd be back and rusty somewhere in the first round

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Dude in here bringing up defensive metrics lol. Even advanced stats goober nerds will tell you they're hella flawed. Prime Bron used to get skated by dudes like pg and kawhi, he never had the foot speed to keep up with those types

Paul George?

 Seriously? Game 7 of the 2013 Eastern Conference Finals:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306030MIA.html

And Kawhi won the Finals MVP while averaging 18 ppg in that series. Pretty much by default as the lessest of all evils, because his team was vastly superior.

And if you want to talk about skated by, check out at 1:15:


Then there's this:



And I have no idea what the hell he's doing here, at the 1:39 mark:

 

[MajinZuub]

Dude in here bringing up defensive metrics lol. Even advanced stats goober nerds will tell you they're hella flawed. Prime Bron used to get skated by dudes like pg and kawhi, he never had the foot speed to keep up with those types

Paul George?  Seriously? Game 7 of the 2013 Eastern Conference Finals:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306030MIA.html

And Kawhi won the Finals MVP while averaging 18 ppg in that series. Pretty much by default as the lessest of all evils, because his team was vastly superior.

And if you want to talk about skated by, check out at 1:15:




Then there's this:




And I have no idea what the hell he's doing here, at the 1:39 mark:

MJ was trash at d too i found a clip of him getting toasted

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Obvious foot sweep by beno. And he's clearly icing the pick in that last clip

 

[leavemeglazzies]

MJ was trash at d too i found a clip of him getting toasted

Can you also find hundreds of hours worth of data consisting of not one, not two, but three advanced defensive stats to prove that he is an inferior defender?

But hey, that's how it is: You post cold hard facts consisting of numbers assembled over many years and they hit you with a "he got skated on though". Then you post a video of their player getting skated on and they deflect again by referring to a third player getting crossed and a "Was he trash too?" comment.

 

[freddy fig]

cousins back on the block...time to finish out the season strong

 

[rolaholic]

MJ was trash at d too i found a clip of him getting toasted

Can you also find hundreds of hours worth of data consisting of not one, not two, but three advanced defensive stats to prove that he is an inferior defender?

But hey, that's how it is: You post cold hard facts consisting of numbers assembled over many years and they hit you with a "he got skated on though". Then you post a video of their player getting skated on and they deflect again by referring to a third player getting crossed and a "Was he trash too?" comment.

 

[jsindaa]

Is the argument here that Kobe wasn't a good defender ever? Or that Bron was great in his own right? Because I'm not sure exactly what's being argued.

 

[freddy fig]

Beno crossover wasnt the highlight of that clip ..only good thing is he drained the j

 

[thirdtimearound]

Y'all remember Kobes last game against Bron where he went like 11-18 and a good number of the shots were with Lebron as the primary defensive?

 

[$tacy]

All parties need to stop with these stat geek #s man, even the steph squad. We all can see who was good, average and bad defenders. All those ***** are flawed.

 

[MajinZuub]

MJ was trash at d too i found a clip of him getting toasted

Can you also find hundreds of hours worth of data consisting of not one, not two, but three advanced defensive stats to prove that he is an inferior defender?

But hey, that's how it is: You post cold hard facts consisting of numbers assembled over many years and they hit you with a "he got skated on though". Then you post a video of their player getting skated on and they deflect again by referring to a third player getting crossed and a "Was he trash too?" comment.

You posted all that defensive stat **** with literally no explanation as to why or what they indicate. Yeah, the calculations are "facts" but they are formulas that some people decided should be a measure for good defense and not everyone agrees with that. And there are factors that don't involve the player directly that affect those numbers.
Posting 3 clips of him getting worked is a pretty pathetic followup to copying and pasting **** from Basketball Reference with no personal input on the numbers.

 

[moe200069]

Dude in here bringing up defensive metrics lol. Even advanced stats goober nerds will tell you they're hella flawed. Prime Bron used to get skated by dudes like pg and kawhi, he never had the foot speed to keep up with those types

Paul George?  Seriously? Game 7 of the 2013 Eastern Conference Finals:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306030MIA.html

And Kawhi won the Finals MVP while averaging 18 ppg in that series. Pretty much by default as the lessest of all evils, because his team was vastly superior.

And if you want to talk about skated by, check out at 1:15:




Then there's this:




And I have no idea what the hell he's doing here, at the 1:39 mark:

MJ was trash at d too i found a clip of him getting toasted

i remember watching that beno clip and thinking dude was the truth. that has to be the highlight of beno's strange career


and in the yinka dare clip you posted, you can tell kobe was trynna force him to go towards the baseline and then expecting help defense in the interior.

 

[JD617]

 

Kobe's defense = Derek Jeter's defense. I don't even feel like arguing about it anymore.

I finally got around to watching this. I'm just gonna assume this was supposed to be a burn since the Lakers beat the Celtics that year, and not that you thought it proved a point.

 

[HOU$TON]

Harden really not a bad defender

 

[MajinZuub]

 

Kobe's defense = Derek Jeter's defense. I don't even feel like arguing about it anymore.

I finally got around to watching this. I'm just gonna assume this was supposed to be a burn since the Lakers beat the Celtics that year, and not that you thought it proved a point.

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[hardens beard]

Westbrook defense is laughable

 

[kdslittlebro]

Man I hear so many Thunder fans talk about how much more exciting this team is, and how much more they like the team this year. I'll take a boring reg. season, with checked out stars over getting 20-pieced by the Magic