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osh kosh bosh said:
Well yah not being protectionist is def libertarian coded. The idea that it's bad to favour domestic companies vs international firms is def more libertarian than progressive.

Hypocrisy is annoying but it's not actually a good reason to not to do the obviously smart thing.

I'm sure young voters will recover, why would they care who the parent company of Tiktol is?
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I have no problem with cracking down on Tiktok, I'm not favouring anyone and I don't think it's bad to, but I do think it's bad optics when there's a clear need for blanket oversight. I also don't expect voters to be rational if events don't go toward the ideal of a quick sale with no break in service, which is the only way they won't care. This is unreasonable?
 
The elephant in the room over this ban is the way tiktok has shown Americans, especially younger adults what is really going on in Gaza and the US’ elderly Zionist ruling class can’t stand it.

How’d everyone here feel if their favorite political media/media platforms were banned? Especially if it were starting to change public opinion.?

If we ever do have a leftist ruling coalition and we banned MSNBC on the grounds of, let’s say climate security. Let’s say we decided that they were not sufficiently eco socialist enough and banned them on those grounds. If you’re a liberal, you’d probably focus on the fact that a leftist government canceled a liberal platform that it didn’t like, even if they gave a justification on national security grounds (and BTW, climate change IS a far greater security threat than China).

I know I know, it’s not technically a ban in the traditional sense (it’s a forced fire sale which may or may not happen. Even if it’s for mere Pennie’s on the dollar, Byte Dance would likely take it but sometimes negotiations breakdown when we side is facing a massive L) but it still feels like a slap in the face and a sop to the Zionists, as well.

The fact that we are defending a platform that we use doesn’t turn us into libertarians. We’re not going to put on fedoras and advocate for the age of consent to be lowered to 10. I’m not going to start posting John Stossel videos because I don’t want Zionists shutting down a very good platform that undermines their narrative.

As economic and environmental crises grow, there will be more barbarism and the powers that be don’t want the more comfortable global citizens, who are still (for the moment) not being subjected to the bleeding edge of capitalism’s management of a degraded environment, to actually see the barbarism unfolding. Our ruling class wants to go back to 1996, where this brutality is safely hidden behind a wall of passive voice, clinical language, and bureaucratic obsfucation.

The good news is that this ban is a wake up call. We cannot depend on any one platform (especially one owned or influenced by any state actor or large company, including TikTok) to spread our ideas, our critiques, our countervailing narratives, and our fellow humans’ distress in the face of capitalism in its terminal stages.

We need to have a variety of decentralized networks that are resistant to government censorship. It’s obvious that liberal and conservative governments will take much, much more drastic measures as the number of Gazas increases. In 20 years, I wouldn’t be surprised if the US and its client states aren’t running a dozen open air prisons and/or liquidation programs like we’re seeing in Gaza. The elites would prefer to do so either totally in secret or they’d want to co from the narrative and tell us how it’s a tragic and complicated situation (which they have no intention of stopping, of course). But the genie is already out of the bottle, we have seen how valuable peer-to-peer news is and how it often times contradicts official narratives and we’ll find new and better ways to spread that peer-to-peer information, regardless of the machinations of our boomer Zionist overlords.
 
RustyShackleford said:
Delk might be back soon, seems like he is getting laid off....


www.thedailybeast.com

‘Make the RNC White Again’: GOP Ends Minority Outreach Program

With Trump allies taking over the RNC and cleaning house, one of the casualties was a minority outreach program that seemed to be working for Republicans.
www.thedailybeast.com
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Dell right now
 
BTW TikTok currently has the smartest algorithm in the social media game. So if you use it and only see fluff content, well that’s because you’re looking for that kind of content.

I agree that the dopamine slot machine that is rapidly swiping through very short videos is not good for developing minds. Moreover, it degrades developed minds. I can’t get over how much it’s diminished my attention span compared where it was when I was in high school and college.

That said, this ban has nothing to do with getting kids off their iPads and on the piano or outside the house. Moreover, if the ban were driven by concern for the development of young minds, Congress would be banning YouTube shorts and IG reels since those are actually closer to how a lot of over 30 people imagines everyone’s TikTok feed.

TikTok used to only do the very short videos but now they have a lot of longer videos, a lot of great educational content, and you’ll frequently get links or mentions of books cited in those videos. So TikTok, at least some parts of, are hardly the worse when it comes to that social media tendency to keep us on that hamster wheel of endless swiping.

Come to think of it, I should ask my Congress person to sponsor a ban on iPad games as well as a ban on all of Mr. Beast’s content. Send that guy into exile, please.
 
Well, even if tiktok gets taken down (and RustyShackleford RustyShackleford is right, it will likely just be a change in ownership with no practical changes for US users), I implore Congress to never ban this IG account. It’s no threat, the only threat it poses is against being broke…



This is the content the elites really want to take from you.
 
rexanglorum said:
BTW TikTok currently has the smartest algorithm in the social media game. So if you use it and only see fluff content, well that’s because you’re looking for that kind of content.

I agree that the dopamine slot machine that is rapidly swiping through very short videos is not good for developing minds. Moreover, it degrades developed minds. I can’t get over how much it’s diminished my attention span compared where it was when I was in high school and college.

That said, this ban has nothing to do with getting kids off their iPads and on the piano or outside the house. Moreover, if the ban were driven by concern for the development of young minds, Congress would be banning YouTube shorts and IG reels since those are actually closer to how a lot of over 30 people imagines everyone’s TikTok feed.

TikTok used to only do the very short videos but now they have a lot of longer videos, a lot of great educational content, and you’ll frequently get links or mentions of books cited in those videos. So TikTok, at least some parts of, are hardly the worse when it comes to that social media tendency to keep us on that hamster wheel of endless swiping.

Come to think of it, I should ask my Congress person to sponsor a ban on iPad games as well as a ban on all of Mr. Beast’s content. Send that guy into exile, please.
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I get dopamine Everytime I learn da latest tiktok dance .
 
rexanglorum said:
The elephant in the room over this ban is the way tiktok has shown Americans, especially younger adults what is really going on in Gaza and the US’ elderly Zionist ruling class can’t stand it.

How’d everyone here feel if their favorite political media/media platforms were banned? Especially if it were starting to change public opinion.?

If we ever do have a leftist ruling coalition and we banned MSNBC on the grounds of, let’s say climate security. Let’s say we decided that they were not sufficiently eco socialist enough and banned them on those grounds. If you’re a liberal, you’d probably focus on the fact that a leftist government canceled a liberal platform that it didn’t like, even if they gave a justification on national security grounds (and BTW, climate change IS a far greater security threat than China).

I know I know, it’s not technically a ban in the traditional sense (it’s a forced fire sale which may or may not happen. Even if it’s for mere Pennie’s on the dollar, Byte Dance would likely take it but sometimes negotiations breakdown when we side is facing a massive L) but it still feels like a slap in the face and a sop to the Zionists, as well.

The fact that we are defending a platform that we use doesn’t turn us into libertarians. We’re not going to put on fedoras and advocate for the age of consent to be lowered to 10. I’m not going to start posting John Stossel videos because I don’t want Zionists shutting down a very good platform that undermines their narrative.

As economic and environmental crises grow, there will be more barbarism and the powers that be don’t want the more comfortable global citizens, who are still (for the moment) not being subjected to the bleeding edge of capitalism’s management of a degraded environment, to actually see the barbarism unfolding. Our ruling class wants to go back to 1996, where this brutality is safely hidden behind a wall of passive voice, clinical language, and bureaucratic obsfucation.

The good news is that this ban is a wake up call. We cannot depend on any one platform (especially one owned or influenced by any state actor or large company, including TikTok) to spread our ideas, our critiques, our countervailing narratives, and our fellow humans’ distress in the face of capitalism in its terminal stages.

We need to have a variety of decentralized networks that are resistant to government censorship. It’s obvious that liberal and conservative governments will take much, much more drastic measures as the number of Gazas increases. In 20 years, I wouldn’t be surprised if the US and its client states aren’t running a dozen open air prisons and/or liquidation programs like we’re seeing in Gaza. The elites would prefer to do so either totally in secret or they’d want to co from the narrative and tell us how it’s a tragic and complicated situation (which they have no intention of stopping, of course). But the genie is already out of the bottle, we have seen how valuable peer-to-peer news is and how it often times contradicts official narratives and we’ll find new and better ways to spread that peer-to-peer information, regardless of the machinations of our boomer Zionist overlords.
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Dawg wut
 
rexanglorum said:
The elephant in the room over this ban is the way tiktok has shown Americans, especially younger adults what is really going on in Gaza and the US’ elderly Zionist ruling class can’t stand it.

How’d everyone here feel if their favorite political media/media platforms were banned? Especially if it were starting to change public opinion.?

If we ever do have a leftist ruling coalition and we banned MSNBC on the grounds of, let’s say climate security. Let’s say we decided that they were not sufficiently eco socialist enough and banned them on those grounds. If you’re a liberal, you’d probably focus on the fact that a leftist government canceled a liberal platform that it didn’t like, even if they gave a justification on national security grounds (and BTW, climate change IS a far greater security threat than China).

The good news is that this ban is a wake up call. We cannot depend on any one platform (especially one owned or influenced by any state actor or large company, including TikTok) to spread our ideas, our critiques, our countervailing narratives, and our fellow humans’ distress in the face of capitalism in its terminal stages.

We need to have a variety of decentralized networks that are resistant to government censorship. It’s obvious that liberal and conservative governments will take much, much more drastic measures as the number of Gazas increases. In 20 years, I wouldn’t be surprised if the US and its client states aren’t running a dozen open air prisons and/or liquidation programs like we’re seeing in Gaza. The elites would prefer to do so either totally in secret or they’d want to co from the narrative and tell us how it’s a tragic and complicated situation (which they have no intention of stopping, of course). But the genie is already out of the bottle, we have seen how valuable peer-to-peer news is and how it often times contradicts official narratives and we’ll find new and better ways to spread that peer-to-peer information, regardless of the machinations of our boomer Zionist overlords.
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Whoa, slippery slope much?

This has nothing to do with Gaza and you know it. This ban is really about doing to China what they have been doing to us for decades. If you want to make money over here, you play by our rules.

Them using the product to influence our population is an added threat. China is to not be trusted, point blank period. Besides, this isn't a ban, it's a forced spin-off. Try logging into IG in China, that's a real "ban"

You're Gaza argument would first have to prove that sentiment has changed because of Tik- Tok, debatable at best:

www.pewresearch.org

Americans’ Views of the Israel-Hamas War

65% of Americans say Hamas bears a lot of responsibility for the current conflict, compared with 35% who say this about the Israeli government.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org

The above article does mention support for Gaza in higher number based on age, but there is also disapproval of his handling Biden based on party (shocker) I also would argue that younger people always skewed as Pro-Palestinian
 
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