***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[deezrsackolishus]

you cant derail a political discussion thread, if you are talking politics. its meant for discussion and to go in different directions

and dudes dont entertain...they throw out lil personal shots and then point the finger at the bad guy

shoulda realized anything negative on mlk would be like going on a teaparty board and bashing trump

 

[leavemeglazzies]

you cant derail a discussion thread. its meant for discussion and to go in different directions
 

XIs were great, but my personal favorites were the VIIs. With this colorway:

Is anyone else excited for Stranger Things season 2?

Also, what 4K TV is the best one to get? At a reasonable price?

 

[deezrsackolishus]

XIs were great, but my personal favorites were the VIIs. With this colorway:

fixed it for ya smart ***


you cant derail a political discusssion thread, when you are still talking politics, which i clearly was.

and you clearly arent

now you look even dumber for trying to jump on the rusty/robford bandwagon

 

[leavemeglazzies]

fixed it for ya smart ***

In my opinion, Anker Jorgensen was the greatest prime minister Denmark ever had. Some claim that it was Stauning, but I respectfully disagree.

Is anyone else excited for the 2017 New Zealand election?

 

[deezrsackolishus]

cool!

ignore the fact you had to add that to not look like an idiot, cuz u clearly came in to junp on a bandwagon and try and pile on with non political stuff

 

[rico x hood]

http://cnn.it/2j4cAMT

Obama in one last move to take our tax dollars and redistribute it.






The Obama administration is considering a major last-minute policy shift that could force hundreds of school districts to cut spending at well-financed elementary and secondary schools and move nearly $1 billion dollars to schools with large numbers of low-income students.

The policy, written by the Department of Education, is under review by the White House budget office and has drawn fierce opposition from Republican lawmakers and school administrators.

It was first proposed in September, but the department appears to have rushed to adopt it since Donald Trump won the presidential election. Adopting the regulation before Friday at noon would bind the incoming Trump administration unless Congress overturns it.


The regulation would dramatically increase federal control over spending at many of the nation's 14,000 school districts and force some districts to increase spending at low-income schools.

Districts could achieve the increase by diverting money -- a total of $800 million nationwide -- from more-affluent schools, or by spending an additional $2.2 billion in state and local funds, the Education Department says.

The regulation would apply only to school districts that have both low-income schools that get Title I federal funds and higher-income schools that are not eligible for the money.

"If this were to be finalized, it would be a huge deal because it's saying how local and state money inside school districts is to be distributed across schools," said Nora Gordon, a school-finance expert at Georgetown University.

Scott Sargrad, a former Education Department official, said the regulation "could significantly improve achievement for students" in low-income schools.

"This is the federal government explicitly saying poor students need to have at least the same resources as their higher-income counterparts. That's a significant step for the federal government to say that," said Sargrad, who is now an education policy expert at Center for American Progress, a liberal Washington think tank.

But opponents including Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tennessee, say federal law does not give the administration the authority to enact such a far-reaching regulation.

Alexander, chairman of the Senate education committee and a former secretary of education, has vowed to block the regulation -- a move that would require a majority vote in both houses of Congress and the President's signature.

Congress could also effectively stymie the regulation by denying the department funding to implement it.

The National School Boards Association called the regulation "unnecessary" and "unwarranted federal overreach" that would constrain school districts.

The Education Department proposed the regulation in early September, and appears to have rushed to adopt it since Donald Trump won the presidential election.

After accepting public comments for 60 days, until early November, the department took just four weeks to send a final version of the regulation to the White House budget office for review.

Departments and agencies typically take at least several months -- and sometimes years -- to write a final rule after receiving public comments.

"They've been pushing this rule pretty hard," said Nat Malkus, an education-policy expert at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

The budget office has given no indication of when and if it will approve the regulation. The Education Department has not released its final version, although experts expect it will closely resemble the initial proposal.

Department spokeswoman Dorie Nolt would say only that the agency "is still working on the final rule."

Students at low-income schools shortchanged

Education Secretary John B. King Jr. has championed the regulation as a way of improving education for low-income students by requiring school districts spend the same amount of state and local dollars at their low-income schools as they do at higher-income schools.

An Education Department study in 2011 found many low-income schools were receiving less in per-pupil funding than their higher-income counterparts in the same district.

The department says that 3.3 million of the nation's 50 million public-school students attend low-income schools that receive less money per pupil than higher-income schools in the same district. As a result, the department says, nearly 6,000 low-income schools "are shortchanged by about $440,000 a year."

In announcing the proposal in August, King called it "an important step forward to advancing resource equity across the country." King also urged districts and states to comply with the regulation "by providing additional funds for education focused on high-needs schools, not by shifting dollars around or forcing transfers of teachers or other personnel."

The regulation interprets a small section of a 400-page education law enacted in December 2015 whose main goal is to increase local control over education standards, school curriculums and standardized testing.

The law was sponsored by Sen. Alexander and received broad bipartisan support. It reverses parts of the No Child Left Behind Act, and requires, for example, that states consider more than just test scores in evaluating schools.

The section of the 2015 act currently in question concerns the longstanding policy that requires school districts to use Title I education funds only to supplement state and local funding and not in place of those funds. Until now, the policy has stopped short of requiring school districts to spend the same money per pupil in Title I schools and in non-Title I schools.

The Education Department has said that 90 percent of the nation's school districts do not have substantial funding disparities between low-income and high-income schools, and would not need to adjust funding.

But Gordon, the Georgetown expert, said the new rule would affect even those school districts that do not need to make immediate funding changes.

"Anything they're thinking about doing, like opening a special arts program in a school, they would need to make sure they're still in compliance," Gordon said. "It really could inhibit innovation in districts because they'd worry about falling out of compliance."

 

[deezrsackolishus]

believe it when you see it when it comes to schools and money

 

[leavemeglazzies]

cool!

ignore the fact you had to add that to not look like an idiot, cuz u clearly came in to junp on a bandwagon and try and pile on with non political stuff

I did no such thing.

 

[rico x hood]

Why are there Raptor 7s posted? I'm so confused.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Get used to the next four years where everyone voices their opinion with their chest, regardless of how flawed the logic.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

http://cnn.it/2j4cAMT

Obama in one last move to take our tax dollars and redistribute it.


The Obama administration is considering a major last-minute policy shift that could force hundreds of school districts to cut spending at well-financed elementary and secondary schools and move nearly $1 billion dollars to schools with large numbers of low-income students.

"This is the federal government explicitly saying poor students need to have at least the same resources as their higher-income counterparts. That's a significant step for the federal government to say that," said Sargrad, who is now an education policy expert at Center for American Progress, a liberal Washington think tank.

God forbid

 

[deezrsackolishus]

thats been happening and will continue forever. no matter who is in office.

we justgot the worse option of the two this time

 

[rico x hood]

God forbid

If you send your kid to a good school and they want to start language immersion program which is very beneficial. They may not be able to do so because the tax money is going to some other school that you have no connection to other than it just happens to be in your district.

Congrats you just played yourself and your kid lost a chance to be bilingual. Now you'll have to shell out hundreds for Rosetta Stone or a private tutor.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

If you send your kid to a good school and they want to start language immersion program which is very beneficial. They may not be able to do so because the tax money is going to some other school that you have no connection to other than it just happens to be in your district.

Congrats you just played yourself and your kid lost a chance to be bilingual. Now you'll have to shell out hundreds for Rosetta Stone or a private tutor.

Meanwhile their are families who's only option is to send their kids to schools where they don't even have enough books per student. Seems to me that low income students have FAR more to gain than the suburban kids have to lose.

PHILADELPHIA — At Martin Luther King High, a hulking half-full school here, there aren’t enough textbooks to go around. If teachers want to make a photocopy, they have to buy paper themselves. Though an overwhelming majority of students are living in poverty, no social worker is available to help. Private donations allow for some dance and music classes, but they serve just 60 of the school’s 1,200 students.

At Lower Merion High, 10 miles away in a suburb of stately stone homes, copy paper and textbooks are available but are rarely necessary: Each student has a school-provided laptop. A pool allows for lifeguarding classes, and an arts wing hosts courses in photography, ceramics, studio art and jewelry making. The campus has a social worker.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...2f4e3e-e441-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html

 

[seandon23]

Those poor kids should just pick themselves up by the bootstraps

 

[rico x hood]

Those poor kids should just pick themselves up by the bootstraps

That's the parents job.

 

[rico x hood]

Meanwhile their are families who's only option is to send their kids to schools where they don't even have enough books per student. Seems to me that low income students have FAR more to gain than the suburban kids have to lose.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...2f4e3e-e441-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html

That's a very unfortunate story and heartbreaking. But it's not the job of the tax payers of the kids that go to Lower Merion to bankroll the MLK school.

 

[wavycrocket]

That's a very unfortunate story and heartbreaking. But it's not the job of the tax payers of the kids that go to Lower Merion to bankroll the MLK school.

Do you have any idea why the suburban public schools are "good schools" in the first place?

Or why the inner city public schools without resources are "bad schools".......

Do you know?

 

[rico x hood]

Money?

 

[the qbz]

If you send your kid to a good school and they want to start language immersion program which is very beneficial. They may not be able to do so because the tax money is going to some other school that you have no connection to other than it just happens to be in your district.

Congrats you just played yourself and your kid lost a chance to be bilingual. Now you'll have to shell out hundreds for Rosetta Stone or a private tutor.

Some families dont have that option to send their kids to Good school. Lottery system and such are some things that are a barrier on top of district line. And children being tied to their home adress

Standardize testing should be done away with and more science math social studies should get implemented

I cute to give kids tablets and such in school but it would serve the greater good by teaching how all that works

 

[seandon23]

That's the parents job.

Narrow-minded Rico back at it again

 

[rico x hood]

I agree with doing away with standardized tests. Literally the most annoying part of my primary school career.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

The kids that go to "bad schools" should just move.

 

[rico x hood]

Once again that's the job of the parent. And if you are in a school that you feel is lacking there many ways to supplement education. Libraries. Free tutoring from high school or college students that need community service credit. The internet. My parents used to get my sister and I those workbooks in science, math, and history.

And if you can't afford workbooks. There's **** like this

https://www.math-drills.com

For free .

 

[wavycrocket]

Money?

White flight. Desegregation.

Do yourself a favor and read up on the creation of the suburbs.

Read up on how white flight contributed to urban decay.

Read up on how the government used tax dollars to fund the suburbs....and underfund the city.....who's residents were now black. Read up on how businesses left the inner city once white flight took place....to open up in the suburbs so the tax dollars could go there.

Everything in this damn country has a root. Often times.....you'll find the root is.....you guessed it. Racism.