***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[fargin]

It's a domestic abuse allegation, you don't exactly need access to government surveillance satellites. You just need a telephone and a handkerchief folded over the mouthpiece.

But I'm getting a little too carried away now...

 

[gry60]

Not sure if posted yet

PT Barnum would be proud of this administration.

 

[Mark Antony]

It's kinda crazy the circles determined white men can work their way into despite questionable pasts.

 

[blastercombo]

Not sure if posted yet

Homie selling the crystals to power time machines?



“Da best peoples”

 

[plansb]

 

[...So]

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[rexanglorum]

PT Barnum would be proud of this administration.

The dude was a spokesman for a line of toilets for guys who have (or wish they had) large dongs.

The dude is an AM radio commercial which is pretty appropriate for a President who is basically an AM radio host.



Also, looking at Twitter today, AOC could credibly say that she got “da low overhead” in every conservatives’ brains.

 

[Nike Jordan]

Ain't so such thing as "good Republicans" in 2018.

 

[chao7]

 

[gry60]

This farce with Amazon is not an aberration within Capitalism, it is merely the highest stage of capitalist development. Republicans are merely displeased that a number of the current captains of industry are socially liberal and/or critical of Donald Trump.

From the article:

“They come in promising jobs and to add to the tax base—more development, more tourism, more people coming in. Now look at what they’re doing.”

Having their cake and eating it?

 

[fargin]

I truly care for Julian Assange and wish nothing but the best for him. Living in that Ecuadorian janitor's closet has been a detriment to his health and I firmly believe, that a good stint in a federal prison would do him some good. Maybe even Camp X-ray down in sunny Guantanamo Bay for some D-vitamin replenishment.

 

[whywesteppin]

It's kinda crazy the circles determined white men can work their way into despite questionable pasts.

Black teen with a misdemeanor: dangerous thug, irredeemable criminal, should be tried as an adult, can't let him ever vote.

White middle-aged man convicted of federal crimes: boys will be boys, we would've done the same, let him run for office, give him a gun, anyone who says something negative about him should be sent to prison for lying

 

[...So]

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[dacomeup]

Florida not counting Broward's votes.

 

[whywesteppin]

Just in time for Thanksgiving, to thank Turkey for uncovering the murder of a journalist by Saudi Arabia we are going to send them one of their own to murder:

 

[gry60]

 

[boris]

Just in time for Thanksgiving, to thank Turkey for uncovering the murder of a journalist by Saudi Arabia we are going to send them one of their own to murder:

The **** that these deplorables resort to is absurd.

 

[blastercombo]

Black teen with a misdemeanor: dangerous thug, irredeemable criminal, should be tried as an adult, can't let him ever vote.

White middle-aged man convicted of federal crimes: boys will be boys, we would've done the same, let him run for office, give him a gun, anyone who says something negative about him should be sent to prison for lying

Worse than that. Old white man steals millions = 2 months of jail. Old white man sexually assaults multiple women = “not enough proof for me”

 

[elpablo21]

Hoping tomorrow is #muellertime

 

[elpablo21]

Florida not counting Broward's votes.

2 minutes late

2 minutes

2

Wtf

 

[blastercombo]

I wish they’d just come out and say it. Just say they’re doing whatever they can to keep things the white way. Would really simplify everything

 

[IATT]

 

[blastercombo]

A person feeling “empowered” with a gun is exactly the kind of person that shouldnt have it

 

[whywesteppin]

Coal Gang did the same thing this year!

I already have enough guns so I'm go re-gift my handgun for my neighbor's kid. He's 16 and dealing with depression and I think he needs a good pick-me-up to feel empowered.

 

[d nice]

This is a pretty good piece on Dems and the mid-terms
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/midterm-elections-reconstruction-du-bois

The midterm elections produced a range of results as vast, gorgeous, and idiotic as America itself. A glance at the state ballot measures alone suggests the warring impulses at work in our confused society: Idaho expanded Medicaid, Louisiana repealed its Jim Crow–era jury rules, and Missouri raised the minimum wage, but Washington rejected a carbon tax, Colorado declined to further regulate fracking, and California crushed a rent control law. Florida, meanwhile, voted to enfranchise ex-felons, but hobbled its already dysfunctional government by requiring a legislative supermajority to raise taxes.

The national political story was no different. Democrats won a narrow majority in the House and a handful of governorships, but Republicans strengthened their hold on the Senate. An exciting new crop of left-wing legislators won office, but some of the country’s most dynamic candidates were (probably) defeated by Trumpist lapdogs, industry tools, and neoliberal flunkies. Scott Walker lost, but Ted Cruz won: it was that kind of night.

The media reaction to this mixed fruit revealed the Janus face of contemporary liberalism. One cluster of pundits arraigned ordinary Americans for failing to “repudiate” Donald Trump with sufficient gusto. “If the midterms were a test of the country’s character,” pronounced Sarah Kendzior, “Americans failed.” Democrats may have scraped back a few seats in Congress, but the nightmare of Trump remains, and with it the frenzy of shame, disgust, and hostility toward popular government that has saturated liberal commentary since November 2016.

At the same time, a parallel brigade of liberal analysts arrived to claim a triumphant victory for the electoral process. “Make no mistake,” declared the New Yorker, “the midterm elections were a Democratic victory.” By reclaiming some of the Midwestern states Hillary Clinton lost, while also making inroads into the New South, Democrats showed they could be trusted to build an effective resistance to Trump’s “populist” demagoguery. Taking back the House, said Nancy Pelosi on election night, meant “restoring the Constitution’s checks and balances to the Trump administration.”

Together, these reactions amount to a peculiar style of discourse you might call apocalyptic institutionalism. The chilling march of fascism, from this angle, may only be halted by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the US counterintelligence apparatus, and, perhaps, a thunderous condemnation of nonvoters on social media. The Sunday before the election, on a handsome brownstone block in Brooklyn, I watched an adult man scurry up and down the street, urging New York City Marathon runners to rescue the republic by casting a ballot for Andrew Cuomo.

But when it comes to understanding the election, both faces of liberal punditry are wrong: in the language of this increasingly evangelical liberalism, the midterms were neither a confirmation of the apocalypse nor a sign of our coming Democratic salvation.

Elite hysteria about the depravity of the American people makes even less sense in 2018 than it did in 2016. This election was, absolutely, a mass repudiation of Trump and his foul agenda. Republicans lost the popular contest for Congress by millions of votes and over seven percentage points. The true power behind Trump’s throne, we should know by now, is not an irresistible army of zombie racists in the heartland, but the historical structures and top-down tactics that sustain Republican minority rule.

Yet neither did last Tuesday’s results mark the way toward anything like a constructive political realignment. In numerical terms, national Democratic gains were utterly, predictably normal: in midterm elections since the New Deal, the president’s party loses on average about thirty seats in Congress, four seats in the Senate, and 350 seats in statehouses. The Democrats, it turns out, are almost as average as it gets.

This was not a blue wave, but a deepening of the familiar twenty-first century partisan trench. The metaphors for today’s Democratic Party should not be liquid or mobile, since its dominant impulse remains both concrete and conservative: protecting American institutions, restoring “balance” to government, and defending the Barack Obama–era status quo against the invading armies of the Right.

Freed from the burden of Hillary Clinton at the top of the ballot, and boosted by the midterm cycle, Democrats did make raw gains in nearly every part of the country. But the congressional districts where they concentrated their resources and won decisive victories — from New Jersey to Minnesota to Texas — were almost exclusively the same affluent, educated suburbs that Clinton sought to woo in 2016.

In this sense, the midterms represented a victorious Democratic effort to capture Fortress Fairfax County. This strategy, as its fans and critics alike have long understood, can produce a limited kind of electoral success. With unwonted generosity, we might even grant that it made tactical sense in the very specific circumstances of the 2018 midterms.

The defeat of Republican reaction, red in tooth and claw, is worth celebrating. Yet on its own terms, the Democrats’ return to government offers little to cheer about. The only Americans who adore “checks and balances” more than liberal pundits are the owners of capital. The day after the election, the Dow Jones rose 550 points, the strongest post-midterm stock rally in thirty years. A divided Congress, declared JP Morgan’s Marko Kolanvoic, speaking for the investor class as a whole, “is the best outcome for US and global equity markets.”

On Wall Street, healthcare stocks led the way, with UnitedHealth and Anthem, Inc. both spiking to record highs last week. When Michigan governor-elect Gretchen Whitmer attracted criticism for putting a Blue Cross Blue Shield executive on her transition team, she only made literal what Wall Street already understood: a resurgent Democratic Party, in its current formation, only strengthens the stability of the for-profit health insurance system.

And in the long run, the Democrats’ 51 percent solution, depending crucially on the votes of wealthy suburbanites, is a formula for disaster. It cannot repair our broken politics, much less transform our savagely unequal society. In fact, even in its short-term triumphs, it obscures (when it does not outright scorn) the one mode of struggle that can break the cycle: a political revolution driven by the needs and aspirations of the broader working class.