Not at all.
Americans have low voter turnout compared to similarly situated Western nations, period. Black Americans also face voter suppression and have a long and complex history with having faith in institutions period based on what's happened here since 1619. I thought that it was clear that my post was referring to those who are already voting, but I guess not. If the swaths of the white people constituting groups that Rex mentioned who currently voted R vote Dem, then we wouldn't have that issue. That's my point. Those voters who routinely vote against their interests, not those who are currently not voting, which is a much more complex conversation.
Who in here is making anything close to this claim or would discount the critical importance of easy voting access? Who aside from you in this post is painting these things as mutually exclusive?
Who did I quote to accuse or imply of making that argument. Certain was not you.
This is why I don't really pay attention to all the bickering that's going on among leftist factions regarding the upcoming election. Those on the left who didn't want to vote against Trump four years ago will have to do it this year.
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just to clarify that we’re on the same page here, you’re arguing that there is a potentially substantial faction of centrist Democratic voters who may not vote for Bernie in the general if he wins the Democratic nomination—who may vote for Trump, abstain, or vote for a potential third candidate? So “Bernie Bros” are not the only ideologues who may potentially defect and tank the Dem nominee’s chances if they don’t like who that nominee is—a faction of moderate Democrats may fall into this category as well?
Yeah, in the end all these debates we have don't mean ****. Getting Trump out and McConnell out as Speaker is the main objective. Whomever wins the nomination, getting my vote.
Similarly, if the tens of millions of folks not currently voting turned out we wouldn’t have the issue either. Working-class whites who vote Republican are voting against their own interests, but in not voting, working-class people of all backgrounds are foregoing a voice in the process of expressing those interests and shaping their manifestation in the political arena as well. We should be committed to addressing both of those things on a wide range of fronts.
I agree with you that the narrative has been problematically skewed to some extent by Sanders and some of his supporters on this. I don’t want to speak for Rex, and he can contradict me if I’m off-base, but I think he’d agree with you as well.
