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I actually don't think this might work for Phoenix, but it sure as hell makes the Lakers/Suns rivalry a lot more interesting! A possible Western Conf.finals between these two would be great for ratings.......
Shaq trade offical like referree with a whistle (Planet Orange in SHOCK)
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i agree that seems like a stupid trade but it became obvious that the Suns were not going to win the chip with Marion..the Lakers got better then the suns whenthey got Gasol..
and the window to win that ring is only getting smaller..Steve Nash is getting older and he will be able to run like that but for so long and once Nash is donethe suns are done..
n outside of that, pretty much everyone in the West is better..a few teams that prob couldnt beat the suns in a series last year could now..the suns had to dosomething..
and the window to win that ring is only getting smaller..Steve Nash is getting older and he will be able to run like that but for so long and once Nash is donethe suns are done..
n outside of that, pretty much everyone in the West is better..a few teams that prob couldnt beat the suns in a series last year could now..the suns had to dosomething..
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Pointless trade.
Not a bad move for MIA getting Marion next to Wade though.
Not a bad move for MIA getting Marion next to Wade though.
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The suns know they will have to play half good in the half court to win the west this year.
There is no way that shaq is commin off the bench be serious!!!!!!! there are not 140 million dollar player on any bench no matter age
There is no way that shaq is commin off the bench be serious!!!!!!! there are not 140 million dollar player on any bench no matter age
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First thing to go wrong and watch them implode, their is only one player in the league that is a worse "leader" and that guy wears 41 for dallas
Somebody doesn't remember Dirk steamrolling through the Suns in the WCF two years ago...
Chris Broussard's take on this trade:
Why?'' I cried. "I can't see one benefit to adding Shaq.''
Here's what I was told:
First, the Suns don't think they can win it all as currently constructed. Their lack of big, physical players scares the daylights out of them when they look at a Lakers frontline that features Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom (not to mention Ronny Turiaf).
I was told the Suns got word that Dallas was trying to trade for Shaq (in large part to combat the new-look Lakers' behemoth front line) and that that is what set this Phoenix-Miami deal in motion.
Afraid of what a Dallas team that featured Shaq, Dirk and Josh Howard would look like, the Suns have swept in and attempted to steal Shaq from the Mavericks.
If this is true...
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yeah i actually agree that you have to look at the Heat now, in terms of rebuilding, the fact that they could possibly have three great players in Wade,Marion and since they suck they will get a good draft pick.
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Not necessarily... If Shaq can get into shape, and if this trade rejuvenates his mind and interest to dominate again, watch out... Nash, Bell, Hill, Amare,and Shaq in the same lineup is deadly... Yes they gave up Marion, but if you can get a center AND keep Amare and move him back to forward... That is a meanfront court...
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PHX may have just ethered themselves. Steve Kerr overreacting to the Gasol trade gets the big
PHX was in the WCF last year. Could have won the series. STABILITY >>>> BUYING/TRADING FOR TALENT
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This is one of the strangest trades I have ever seen...
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I knew he couldn't stay down for long.
Patrick James Riley.
He dropped the ball on Posey and Kapono. He got rejected by Mo Williams and Charlie Bell in the off-season. He took the L's for the projects of Smush,Penny fricken Hardaway, and even Blount and Ricky Davis.. But I knew he wouldn't be down for long. He done gone ahead and did it now.
Rented Shaq, got a title (could've very ended up with two titles had some injuries not gone down). Now he's possibly going to ship the back end ofShaq's deal, in his current least productive state for a player who is ridiculously productive, and at the same time has a huge player option, thus giveshim a ****LOAD of options next year. You can re-sign Matrix, renounce his rights for the capspace..Sign and trade him...WOW.
Light is busting thru at the end of the tunnel....
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Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Shaq is hurt. He's been hurt...He'll be hurt again....
PHX may have just ethered themselves. Steve Kerr overreacting to the Gasol trade gets the big
PHX was in the WCF last year. Could have won the series. STABILITY >>>> BUYING/TRADING FOR TALENT
No we weren't. It was the conference semis and yes we could have won. But after the lakers got even bigger and we lost ANOTHER game to the spurs thatlead all but 52 seconds (and they didnt have parker), it was obvious it was time to do something.
Marion woulda been gone next year anyway most likely.
and smh @the moron who said shaq would be amares backup. you play them at the same %!%+%% time to keep amares dumb %** outta foul trouble.
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Afraid of what a Dallas team that featured Shaq, Dirk and Josh Howard would look like, the Suns have swept in and attempted to steal Shaq from the Mavericks.
, wow
Anyway, Riley is the man
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Damn...I don't know what to do with myself right now.
It's not even that I'm bitter with Shaq, or there was some drama/feud going on like the end of the LA days that stigmatized him in the eyes of themedia, franchise, and fanbase. The big fella is just on his last legs right now, and rather than having post-Preakness Barbaro on our hands for the next twoyears we were able to make massive strides toward rebuilding the franchise moving forward.
Now the questions are as follows:
1. Does Marion opt out or extend at the end of the season, and if not who do the Heat pursue in free agency?
2. Who becomes the "other" major piece of the new core: Michael Beasley or Derrick Rose?
It's not even that I'm bitter with Shaq, or there was some drama/feud going on like the end of the LA days that stigmatized him in the eyes of themedia, franchise, and fanbase. The big fella is just on his last legs right now, and rather than having post-Preakness Barbaro on our hands for the next twoyears we were able to make massive strides toward rebuilding the franchise moving forward.
Now the questions are as follows:
1. Does Marion opt out or extend at the end of the season, and if not who do the Heat pursue in free agency?
2. Who becomes the "other" major piece of the new core: Michael Beasley or Derrick Rose?
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Even before Nash the Suns were a faster paced team than the Heat. Before Nash Marion was shooting in the mid-40's for FG%, after Nash it jumps to low 50's. His rebounding also jumps after Nash gets there.
My point wasn't that Marion can't play and won't help the Heat, it was that I don't think he's going to be as great as he was with Phoenix with the Heat.
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Shaq is too fat for the Suns. If the Suns slow it down they'll suffer because they're a crap defensive team. Plus WHEN Shaq sits out for variousreasons the trade will look even more pointless. HAHA Suns, you got scared of us and just done yourselfs over
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Anything that gets Stoudamire out of the lineup as a C is a good move... When the Lakers frontcourt reads, Bynum, Gasol, Odom.. you actually think Marion isgoing to get the Suns past that hump especially when him and Stoudamire couldn't even hold Kwame Brown in the first Lakers vs Suns series.. This is a majormove for the Suns, and it's a hit or miss.. But, Nash is old, Shaq is old, Grant Hill may retire soon ... so, the Suns need to act fast and now b/c thereis not that much time left for those players.. This can also put them over the Mavs or the Spurs
Shaq is still a dangerous threat, so do not be amazed if the Suns actually remain in first place.. Alsooooo.. The Suns can finally run some plays in the halfcourt.. That Run-N-Gun style does not work all the time... Which is why GS got Webber and why the Suns went for Shaq.. Your going to need a big man, that canopen up the floor for other players to score and be a scoring option if that fast break doesn't work... Seriously.. The Suns were going nowhere with Marionin that lineup and that's why they were considering trading him in the off-season (And his contract renegotiation as well) Shaq can also change a lot ofshots in the middle as well.. So this can improve both the Suns half-court offense and inside presence..
And if this doesn't work in 2 years.. Thats fine, b/c you don't owe Shaq anymore money, Nash and Grant Hill will retire, and you can begin rebuildingaround Stoudamire... Or maybe just reconstruct your team.. I believe this puts the Suns, a step in the right direction to get to the Finals..
Shaq is still a dangerous threat, so do not be amazed if the Suns actually remain in first place.. Alsooooo.. The Suns can finally run some plays in the halfcourt.. That Run-N-Gun style does not work all the time... Which is why GS got Webber and why the Suns went for Shaq.. Your going to need a big man, that canopen up the floor for other players to score and be a scoring option if that fast break doesn't work... Seriously.. The Suns were going nowhere with Marionin that lineup and that's why they were considering trading him in the off-season (And his contract renegotiation as well) Shaq can also change a lot ofshots in the middle as well.. So this can improve both the Suns half-court offense and inside presence..
And if this doesn't work in 2 years.. Thats fine, b/c you don't owe Shaq anymore money, Nash and Grant Hill will retire, and you can begin rebuildingaround Stoudamire... Or maybe just reconstruct your team.. I believe this puts the Suns, a step in the right direction to get to the Finals..
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Shaq is going to lose alot of wieght playing in phoenix
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I'll be amazed if Shaq plays more than 75% of the Suns remaining games.
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Overeaction on suns part to counter the attack of the pau movement
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Great trade for Heat in terms of the money.
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I don't understand this "running" theme. Yeah, maybe Shaq can't run, but the Suns will always have 4 other players on the floor who can. Mostof the time, a fastbreak doesn't involve all 5 players anyway. It usually consists of 2-3, maybe 4 players.
Interior defense, rebounding and Shaq's health should be the biggest concerns, not the Suns ability to run with Shaq on the roster.
Interior defense, rebounding and Shaq's health should be the biggest concerns, not the Suns ability to run with Shaq on the roster.
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The key to the hope of the Suns this year...
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BAD MOVE
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its a done deal!!!
Just got the text message from ESPN News The Miami Heat send their center Shaquille O'neal to the Suns for F-Shawn Marion, and G-Marcus Banks.
I still can't believe this trade went through...IDK if Shaq is pyshically able to run up and down the floor the way the Suns play. But this does alleviatethe rebounding responsibilities from Amare.
A lot of this has to deal with Steve Kerr trying to get the team to play a half-court style offense. maybe even trying to play some defense
Just got the text message from ESPN News The Miami Heat send their center Shaquille O'neal to the Suns for F-Shawn Marion, and G-Marcus Banks.
I still can't believe this trade went through...IDK if Shaq is pyshically able to run up and down the floor the way the Suns play. But this does alleviatethe rebounding responsibilities from Amare.
A lot of this has to deal with Steve Kerr trying to get the team to play a half-court style offense. maybe even trying to play some defense
