Shaq trade offical like referree with a whistle (Planet Orange in SHOCK)

Originally Posted by NBAdotcom

Stick a fork in us.
We're done.

With this statement made, I now have 100% faith that PHX will win it all this year.

NBAdotcom: "Suns are winning it all this season"=No Championship.

NBAdotcom: "We're done."=CHAMPIONSHIP.

No doubt.


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yup, inside he's giddy as a baby with candy.

zodogg said the two players he would want to see go were diaw and banks, well one of them came true.

if you have shaq on a capable championship squad, you wouldn't consider him as two of the players you would like to see go on your team.

it would probably now be diaw and marks.


http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0206shaqlatest.html
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Shaq to Nash: 'I will not let you down'

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 6, 2008 11:53 AM
Shaquille O'Neal is on his way to Phoenix, literally.

O'Neal's physical exam is the only prerequisite for Phoenix's acquisition of O'Neal for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to take place today.O'Neal is on a flight to the Valley this morning and is scheduled to arrive midday.

The expectation is that O'Neal will pass the physical and a trade call will be placed with the league to consummate the deal by the end of the day.O'Neal could even be in attendance at US Airways Center tonight for Phoenix's 7 p.m. game with New Orleans.




Although O'Neal has been out with a hip injury, there is a belief that he will pass the physical because he is in great condition and is said to be at 312pounds (down from his listed 325 pounds) with low body fat.

He seems to be a motivated player too, having jumped on a plane this morning after talking to several of the Suns, such as Steve Nash and Amaré Stoudemire, onTuesday night.

"I will not let you down," O'Neal told Nash on the phone.

O'Neal's soon-to-be former teammates are in Detroit today.

"Nothing has been completed," Heat coach and President Pat Riley told the Miami Herald today. "These things have backed up before."

The Herald, which broke the trade's news Tuesday, also quoted Heat star Dwyane Wade, saying, "I have no reaction because I don't know the truth.Until that time comes, this is the NBA. I'm not surprised at anything."

Phoenix will have to sign another player after completing the trade because it will be one man shy of the league's 13-man roster minimum. Richie Frahmwould likely be a possibility because he spent training camp and preseason with the Suns and was recently with the Clippers.

O'Neal's former Lakers teammate, Kobe Bryant, was quoted in today's Los Angeles Times as saying, "I know he likes warm weather. Other thanthat, I don't think too much about it."
 
Do you guys think this will help Heat?

Second half turnaround? You know they could get their in the east?
 
Lakers front court Bynum, Gasol, Odom>>>>Phoneix Front court (Shaq, STAT, Diaw)

It's going to be fun watching Shaq foul out in the playoffs trying to guard the west big men like Duncan, Bynum, Gasol, Chandler.
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If Suns brings in Shaq, they'll throw away their Championship chance for this year...
If Heat brings in Matrix, the losing streak will be cut into.. Maybe half?
Besides, do you think Shaq will fit into a quick tempo team like Suns?
The question is, why would the Suns build an old team? Grant Hill is reaching 40, so as Shaq...
But at least Hill can run, fit in well into their quick tempo..
 
Shawn Marion doesn't show up in the playoffs anyways. It's gamble but they weren't gonna win the chip anyways might as well try and give yourself ashot.
 
Originally Posted by Kidskillz858

Lakers front court Bynum, Gasol, Odom>>>>Phoneix Front court (Shaq, STAT, Diaw)

It's going to be fun watching Shaq foul out in the playoffs trying to guard the west big men like Duncan, Bynum, Gasol, Chandler.
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@ delusional Fakers fans putting Bynum in the same category asDuncan.
Bynum?
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Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat

Originally Posted by chikickz

The 7 second shot clock sells tickets. It doesn't win championships. It's that simple. No team can compete for a title if they cannot stop the other team.

Steve Kerr played with MJ. He played with Duncan. He played for Phil Jackson. He played for Greg Popovich. Sarver and minority owners knew this when they hired Steve Kerr. It should be no surprise that Kerr merely read out loud the writing on the wall. The Suns with Marion are a .500 team against their conference and a sub .500 team against WC playoff teams. Does it get any clearer than this?

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Originally Posted by Kidskillz858

Lakers front court Bynum, Gasol, Odom>>>>Phoneix Front court (Shaq, STAT, Diaw)

It's going to be fun watching Shaq foul out in the playoffs trying to guard the west big men like Duncan, Bynum, Gasol, Chandler.
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That's cute. Laker fans are going to be cookin' withLawrys the rest of the season. I've been hearing from dudes all day trying to LOL @ me for PHX getting Shaq.

Odom=Isn't going to do anything......again.
Gasol=
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(maybe if you had him his first 3 seasons, but he isn'tyour Savior (regardless of what his beard potrays)
and Bynum..Well I like him. I can't knock him, but are you ******ed enough to say Bynum>STAT>Shaq>Diaw? *****.
 
Have you guys seen any suns games? I admit Marion is/was a big piece to our team, but this year, he plain out hasn't done anything.

Wow i can't believe all this is happening... LETS GO SUNS!!!!!!!!!! SHAQ BABY!!!
 
Lakers front court Bynum, Gasol, Odom>>>>Phoneix Front court (Shaq, STAT, Diaw)

It's going to be fun watching Shaq foul out in the playoffs trying to guard the west big men like Duncan, Bynum, Gasol, Chandler.
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you putting a top PF of all time next to a young talented center who has accomplished nothing yet?
 
Originally Posted by Jdiddy931

Have you guys seen any suns games? I admit Marion is/was a big piece to our team, but this year, he plain out hasn't done anything.

Says the guy that once made a post "Yeah the Suns lost but Amare dunked on someone"
 
Originally Posted by starbury03

Originally Posted by Kidskillz858

Lakers front court Bynum, Gasol, Odom>>>>Phoneix Front court (Shaq, STAT, Diaw)

It's going to be fun watching Shaq foul out in the playoffs trying to guard the west big men like Duncan, Bynum, Gasol, Chandler.
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That's cute. Laker fans are going to be cookin' with Lawrys the rest of the season. I've been hearing from dudes all day trying to LOL @ me for PHX getting Shaq.

Odom=Isn't going to do anything......again.
Gasol=
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(maybe if you had him his first 3 seasons, but he isn't your Savior (regardless of what his beard potrays)
and Bynum..Well I like him. I can't knock him, but are you ******ed enough to say Bynum>STAT>Shaq>Diaw? *****.

What are you slow? Bynum was easily a top 3 center this year when he was healthy. Not in the West...the LEAGUE. Why you think any one with a brain has saidthe Lakers are now a frontrunner (with SA and Dal) to get out of the West? I'll break it down for you. The Suns are a run and gun team, this trade FORCESthem to change their entire offensive philosophy because Shaq will not survive in that offense. Everything is now about Shaq, not Nash, Shaq. Their entireseason now hinges on someone with maybe 2 years left. Marion was also the #2 man on the team and as far as I'm concerned the most important player fortheir success. Yea I know Nash ran the offense but Marion almost single handedly kept them afloat with his rebounding, hustle, defense, and scoring. NO ONEelse on that team did what he did. Now the Lakers have Bynum (who I've already addressed), Gasol an all star 4 who isn't selfish at all and in case youmissed it he just had a monster debut (think of his production when he KNOWS the offense) and Odom who thrives when he gets to play his game...distribute. Statcan't guard anyone, Shaq is old and Diaw...is Diaw. Also remember the Lakers have Kobe who demands a double team. So how exactly do you expect this team tobeat the Lakers....don't worry I'll wait.
 
"It's going to be fun watching Shaq foul out in the playoffs trying to guard the west big men like Duncan, Bynum, Gasol, Chandler."


Talk about people being salty, you guys are acting like Laker fans are comparing Bynum to Duncan....reading is fundamental. Last I checked Bynum is a west bigman who will be playing in the playoffs, nothing more was said.
 
Originally Posted by JsindaA

are you slow? Bynum was easily a top 3 center this year when he was healthy. Not in the West...the LEAGUE.
Are you on drugs?

Hmm...
Dwight Howard
Yaoming
Bosh
Camby
Al Jefferson
Chandler
Illgauskis
Dampier
Darko
Robert Swift

All are better than Bynum
 
Dampier
Darko
Robert Swift
damn Zo, I dunno about those 3 being better
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.... but youcan make a legit case for the others on your list....


man I wonder how much Big Al would average in the triangle offense
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Originally Posted by NBAdotcom

Originally Posted by JsindaA

are you slow? Bynum was easily a top 3 center this year when he was healthy. Not in the West...the LEAGUE.
Are you on drugs?

Hmm...
Dwight Howard
Yaoming
Bosh
Camby
Al Jefferson
Chandler
Illgauskis
Dampier
Darko
Robert Swift

All are better than Bynum

That's it. I should have said this year....figured you would get that.
 
Best column yet on this trade.
From John Hollinger - ESPN.COM


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[h1]Shaq trade just wouldn't add up for Suns[/h1]

By John Hollinger
ESPN Insider
(Archive)



Updated: February 6, 2008

The Phoenix Suns have the best record in the Western Conference, 1½ games ahead of their closest rival. They have the best scoring margin in the conference, and the best offensive efficiency in the NBA. They're 8-2 in their past 10 games (while outscoring opponents by nine points per game). And the Suns have a slew of home games coming up because their early schedule was so road-heavy.

In other words, after 48 games they're in as good a position as they've ever been in to win their first conference title since Sir Charles and KJ did it 15 years ago.

And their solution? Blow it up!

The Suns are reportedly in negotiations to trade Shawn Marion -- a man everyone agrees is a vital cog in their attack because of his ability to run opponents into submission from the power forward spot -- for Shaquille O'Neal. (The Suns would include Marcus Banks.)

Good call. Clearly this Nash-Marion-Stoudamire nucleus isn't working out; they've won only 62 and 61 games the two years they've been together. This year they're on pace for a meager 58, so I guess the Suns think this combo has run its course.

My first reaction to hearing reports about this deal was that I was being Punk'd. After that, I checked the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1, and verified that the voice on the other end of the phone didn't belong to Orson Welles.

But there was no Ashton Kutcher, no Orson Welles, and the calendar says it's February.

Believe it or not, this is a real, live trade discussion that might actually happen. I'm not sure I've adequately conveyed my shock at this development, but suffice it to say nobody I've talked to finds it even remotely sensible.

Shaq may be the one player who is least capable of thriving in the Suns' system. Run the break? No, thank you. Set a high screen and dive to the cup? Maybe 10 years ago. Space the floor for 3s? Please.

He's 35 and out of shape; at the moment he's also hurt. Even when healthy, he's had difficulty staying out of foul trouble long enough to make an impact. While I'll grant that Shaq can still be an offensive force -- even with his struggles this year his PER is a very solid 18.17 -- he's toasted regularly on defense. And if you thought Marion complained about not getting shots, you ain't heard nothing yet.

Even if you subscribe to the idea that Marion had to go -- there have been mutterings about his attitude for quite a while -- you can't seriously tell me this was the best deal on the table.

While matching his $17 million contract is difficult, the fact that there's only a year and a half left on it means there are partners out there. Just thinking out loud, for instance, you'd think New Jersey would have taken Marion in a heartbeat for Vince Carter or Richard Jefferson, and the Andrei Kirilenko deal that was so heavily discussed before the season also would seem preferable.

Marion, by the way, hadn't let his dissatisfaction and his own offseason trade demand affect his play. His 20.25 PER nearly matches last year's 20.87, and he's made up for a reduction in shots by cutting his turnovers and increasing his assists.

But despite his performance they're trading him for an older, less effective player, and one who could not be more of a square peg in a round hole in their system.

And get this -- the deal will worsen their cap situation, too. Shaq is on the books for two years after this one at $20 million a pop, whereas Marion only has one year left at less money, and may opt out after this season. So in addition to messing up their own team, the Suns will be basically handing Pat Riley a big fat Get Out of Jail Free card.

In short, this deal feels like one of these movie scenes where the lead character has a plan and says, "It's crazy ... but it just might work!"

I'm not sure about the working part, but it's definitely crazy. I'm praying this trade doesn't really happen, because the Suns have been too entertaining for too long to screw up their title chances like this.
 
are you slow? Bynum was easily a top 3 center this year when he was healthy. Not in the West...the LEAGUE.
My God you cannot be serious. Not in the least bit... Dwight, Yao, Camby, Chandler, Amare (Yeah, he's been playing C), Kaman. Then you'vegot guys like Bosh, Boozer, Jefferson, Duncan that spend substantial amounts of time playing C. Top 3 is absolutely a reach.
 
horrible trade for phx...i guess dallas will win the west this year unless the spurs get their act fully together
 
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

are you slow? Bynum was easily a top 3 center this year when he was healthy. Not in the West...the LEAGUE.
My God you cannot be serious. Not in the least bit... Dwight, Yao, Camby, Chandler, Amare (Yeah, he's been playing C), Kaman. Then you've got guys like Bosh, Boozer, Jefferson, Duncan that spend substantial amounts of time playing C. Top 3 is absolutely a reach.

this season...I would have only taken Yao and Dwight over him. Camby maybe. Everyone else....no. Boozer, Bosh, Duncan aren't even centers.
 
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