So does Malcom X having homosexual relations change your view on him?

[Smorgasbordgie]

Nope, doesn't change my view on him. Whether it's true or not, I'm not into holding someone's sexuality against them.

 

[Smorgasbordgie]

Nope, doesn't change my view on him. Whether it's true or not, I'm not into holding someone's sexuality against them.

 

[thorrocksjs]

Originally Posted by l337six

Malcom X is amazing, regardless of his sexual orientation. I ain't gay but there some pretty lame people on NT. Grow up guys, most people on here aint a quarter of the man Malcom was. If you got hatreds toward bi and gay folk, your just insecure with your sexuallity.

see i hate that double speak crap.

 

[thorrocksjs]

Originally Posted by l337six

Malcom X is amazing, regardless of his sexual orientation. I ain't gay but there some pretty lame people on NT. Grow up guys, most people on here aint a quarter of the man Malcom was. If you got hatreds toward bi and gay folk, your just insecure with your sexuallity.

see i hate that double speak crap.

 

[an dee 51o]

The sad thing is that I think that Deuce King is somewhat educated.

 

[an dee 51o]

The sad thing is that I think that Deuce King is somewhat educated.

 

[flacobey]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

How was this someone who was random? And why is it so easy to obtain information, this "historian," who you have no clue about, spent 20+ years working on this book. He went to lengths no one else had to find about the man's history. Pointing to the CIA not having info is not an real argument. If this was a court of law and you were trying to disprove something you would look foolish. Your holding onto blind disagreement without even reading the book.

Let me ask you DeuceKing, if Malcolm had sex with men in his earlier life, don't you think we can assume he would go to great lengths to preserve that secret? IT certainly is something he wouldn't be vocal about given his position and views.

And y'all can quit it with the white men don't get proven gay, cause there has been a mutlitdue of white, conservative leaders who railed against homosexuality who have beeen outed within the past couple of years. Plus the revelations about Lincoln, Gandhi etc. Thing is white people could give a $$+* if Malcolm was gay, the dude is dead, which I'm sure they actually did have a hand in. But Malcolm ain't out there anymore on 125 plotting against the State. If this allegation came about in 1960, sure I would see you guys having a point...Today? Na, cause this book isn't a huge topic of discussion except in educational communtities which excludes the majority of y'all illiterate @*# dudes.

If it had come out that Malcolm was at one time the biggest herione dealer in Harlem who was a vicious murderer you would see nothing but "

" and "Malcolm was bout that life comments in here...Have him be gay, that is the worst thing in the world, an assination of character. Black people have been served the rawest deal out of anyone, you have every reason to distrust/hate white people all that I understand. But the homohpobia thing I don't get, it doesn't help y'all to persecute another group. It seems ya'll are perfectly willing to glorify the worst kind of people, "I think I'm Big Meech" but have someone be gay and that is just simply intolerable.

Very Well Said!

 

[flacobey]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

How was this someone who was random? And why is it so easy to obtain information, this "historian," who you have no clue about, spent 20+ years working on this book. He went to lengths no one else had to find about the man's history. Pointing to the CIA not having info is not an real argument. If this was a court of law and you were trying to disprove something you would look foolish. Your holding onto blind disagreement without even reading the book.

Let me ask you DeuceKing, if Malcolm had sex with men in his earlier life, don't you think we can assume he would go to great lengths to preserve that secret? IT certainly is something he wouldn't be vocal about given his position and views.

And y'all can quit it with the white men don't get proven gay, cause there has been a mutlitdue of white, conservative leaders who railed against homosexuality who have beeen outed within the past couple of years. Plus the revelations about Lincoln, Gandhi etc. Thing is white people could give a $$+* if Malcolm was gay, the dude is dead, which I'm sure they actually did have a hand in. But Malcolm ain't out there anymore on 125 plotting against the State. If this allegation came about in 1960, sure I would see you guys having a point...Today? Na, cause this book isn't a huge topic of discussion except in educational communtities which excludes the majority of y'all illiterate @*# dudes.

If it had come out that Malcolm was at one time the biggest herione dealer in Harlem who was a vicious murderer you would see nothing but "

" and "Malcolm was bout that life comments in here...Have him be gay, that is the worst thing in the world, an assination of character. Black people have been served the rawest deal out of anyone, you have every reason to distrust/hate white people all that I understand. But the homohpobia thing I don't get, it doesn't help y'all to persecute another group. It seems ya'll are perfectly willing to glorify the worst kind of people, "I think I'm Big Meech" but have someone be gay and that is just simply intolerable.

Very Well Said!

 

[Jordan8]

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by cartune

AntonLaVey wrote:

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It's a rule of thumb that if you care that much about the sexual orientation of another man, chances are this is a reaction formation to your own undesirable homosexual feelings. Being anti-gay is the new gay

Nah 


it's literally never failed.....a lot of people who take a hard line against gays (pause) are using it as a defense mechanism. A lot of people are forced to live double lives because society has deemed homosexuality unsavory (a lot of progress is being made tho). If you were born gay but grew up in a catholic family that constantly preached against homosexuality you are very likely to use this defense mechanism, but true nature always prevails.




Im all for Gay rights and what not. But I hate this whole gayness is normal movement.

And this notion that anyone who finds gay sex gross is somehow a closet homosexual has to cease. I find fat sex gross am I low key fat too?

If you comfortable hearing men talk about how they tore some dude up last night if you react to it the same way as dudes talkin about girls .MORE POWER TO YOU. But because I cringe at the thought of sodomy Im gay too? FOH

On some Why you didnt hug Tyrone back? you a homophobe? You sexually insecure? #%%@@ I dont hug my daddy. Get out my face

And true nature? penis goes into vagina makes fetus rinse and repeat. Anything outside of that is abnormal.

  

 

[Jordan8]

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by cartune

AntonLaVey wrote:

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It's a rule of thumb that if you care that much about the sexual orientation of another man, chances are this is a reaction formation to your own undesirable homosexual feelings. Being anti-gay is the new gay

Nah 


it's literally never failed.....a lot of people who take a hard line against gays (pause) are using it as a defense mechanism. A lot of people are forced to live double lives because society has deemed homosexuality unsavory (a lot of progress is being made tho). If you were born gay but grew up in a catholic family that constantly preached against homosexuality you are very likely to use this defense mechanism, but true nature always prevails.




Im all for Gay rights and what not. But I hate this whole gayness is normal movement.

And this notion that anyone who finds gay sex gross is somehow a closet homosexual has to cease. I find fat sex gross am I low key fat too?

If you comfortable hearing men talk about how they tore some dude up last night if you react to it the same way as dudes talkin about girls .MORE POWER TO YOU. But because I cringe at the thought of sodomy Im gay too? FOH

On some Why you didnt hug Tyrone back? you a homophobe? You sexually insecure? #%%@@ I dont hug my daddy. Get out my face

And true nature? penis goes into vagina makes fetus rinse and repeat. Anything outside of that is abnormal.

  

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by cartune

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by cartune

Nah 

it's literally never failed.....a lot of people who take a hard line against gays (pause) are using it as a defense mechanism. A lot of people are forced to live double lives because society has deemed homosexuality unsavory (a lot of progress is being made tho). If you were born gay but grew up in a catholic family that constantly preached against homosexuality you are very likely to use this defense mechanism, but true nature always prevails.

Im all for Gay rights and what not. But I hate this whole gayness is normal movement.

And this notion that anyone who finds gay sex gross is somehow a closet homosexual has to cease. I find fat sex gross am I low key fat too?

If you comfortable hearing men talk about how they tore some dude up last night if you react to it the same way as dudes talkin about girls .MORE POWER TO YOU. But because I cringe at the thought of sodomy Im gay too? FOH

On some Why you didnt hug Tyrone back? you a homophobe? You sexually insecure? #%%@@ I dont hug my daddy. Get out my face

And true nature? penis goes into vagina makes fetus rinse and repeat. Anything outside of that is abnormal.

  
Yes, homosexuality IS nature, whether you see it as "normal" or otherwise is your personal opinion. It used to be viewed as a mental illness in the medical community but people know better because they attempted to cure it. Vagina is normal to you, smashing dudes is normal to some, some see it as a continuum...




Man opens porn folder, faps, cleans self with happy rag-repeat.-Another example of just how normal human sexuality is.


No one is telling you to go kiss a man, or even not be repulsed by homosexual acts....but let them live. The fact that you support gay rights is a thumbs up. My beef is with people who are repulsed to the point where they make life a living hell for gay people. No gay man has ever come up to you and touched penises right in front of your face (word to Louis C.K.).

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by cartune

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by cartune

Nah 

it's literally never failed.....a lot of people who take a hard line against gays (pause) are using it as a defense mechanism. A lot of people are forced to live double lives because society has deemed homosexuality unsavory (a lot of progress is being made tho). If you were born gay but grew up in a catholic family that constantly preached against homosexuality you are very likely to use this defense mechanism, but true nature always prevails.

Im all for Gay rights and what not. But I hate this whole gayness is normal movement.

And this notion that anyone who finds gay sex gross is somehow a closet homosexual has to cease. I find fat sex gross am I low key fat too?

If you comfortable hearing men talk about how they tore some dude up last night if you react to it the same way as dudes talkin about girls .MORE POWER TO YOU. But because I cringe at the thought of sodomy Im gay too? FOH

On some Why you didnt hug Tyrone back? you a homophobe? You sexually insecure? #%%@@ I dont hug my daddy. Get out my face

And true nature? penis goes into vagina makes fetus rinse and repeat. Anything outside of that is abnormal.

  
Yes, homosexuality IS nature, whether you see it as "normal" or otherwise is your personal opinion. It used to be viewed as a mental illness in the medical community but people know better because they attempted to cure it. Vagina is normal to you, smashing dudes is normal to some, some see it as a continuum...




Man opens porn folder, faps, cleans self with happy rag-repeat.-Another example of just how normal human sexuality is.


No one is telling you to go kiss a man, or even not be repulsed by homosexual acts....but let them live. The fact that you support gay rights is a thumbs up. My beef is with people who are repulsed to the point where they make life a living hell for gay people. No gay man has ever come up to you and touched penises right in front of your face (word to Louis C.K.).

 

[mecks]

Originally Posted by Guppetto

Notice how media types keep trying to suggest prominent black men were gay. Man take that crap and put it in the garbage. It's this push to tie the struggle of African Americans and Civil Rights to the plight of Gay individuals in America. Unfortunately, Being Gay has nothing to do with being taken from your homeland and beaten and killed through 400 years of indentured servitude. This is what Malcolm meant when he said "Plymouth Rock landed on us". Not buying it, don't believe it, never accepting it and honestly am somewhat offended. Go out half of the Conservative Gay Congressmen that just happen to be Caucasian if you want a real story.

not saying i dont agree with you. but i feel when the marin luther king FBI wire-tap transcripts are finally declassified, there well be hell.

 

[mecks]

Originally Posted by Guppetto

Notice how media types keep trying to suggest prominent black men were gay. Man take that crap and put it in the garbage. It's this push to tie the struggle of African Americans and Civil Rights to the plight of Gay individuals in America. Unfortunately, Being Gay has nothing to do with being taken from your homeland and beaten and killed through 400 years of indentured servitude. This is what Malcolm meant when he said "Plymouth Rock landed on us". Not buying it, don't believe it, never accepting it and honestly am somewhat offended. Go out half of the Conservative Gay Congressmen that just happen to be Caucasian if you want a real story.

not saying i dont agree with you. but i feel when the marin luther king FBI wire-tap transcripts are finally declassified, there well be hell.

 

[moe fab uafa]

nope.

 

[moe fab uafa]

nope.

 

[wr]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ShaunHillFTW49

abeautifulhaze wrote:

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I don't think that s_ is cool at all.

The Gay rights struggle has no more correlation to the black struggle than any other oppressed group in American or global history.

Its always cool to make black people the poster child for struggle and despair...except when we make light of it. Then we are whining, being counterproductive, living in the past and being devise.

This campaign is total BS. Especially when a gay man like J. Edgar Hoover was responsible for killing dozens of our black leaders and causing many of theproblems that plague our community today.

Gay is the new Gay.

There is no correlation that justifies a grouping with the black struggle and experience over any other people struggle and history. Name one thing that gayshave to struggle against that is exclusive or equal to the black struggle....THERE IS NOT ONE.

You got gay cops sodomizing young brothers in my city....but gay is the new black FOH.

Stand on y'all own two and gain your own respect....unless you are being inclusive in your battle for equality and progression, helping to improve oursituation in the process. This is a selfish and underhanded exploitation of our history and current circumstance.

Are gays helping us better our community and situations while riding under our banner? Or are they simply using the horrific parts of racial history and ourpersistent fight for justice and equality to better their lot in life?

There are upper level establishment owned by gays in every part of America that will bar my blackass entry....still to this day .

Now we have the shoulder the brunt of their struggle too...how the hell we ever gonna rise if everyone is piling on our shoulders and when we raise a voice tospeak about it we are told to shut up.

Y'all gotta have more respect for your history and identity than to let this type of subversion go unchallenged.

Is this post from another thread?

 

[wr]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ShaunHillFTW49

abeautifulhaze wrote:

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I don't think that s_ is cool at all.

The Gay rights struggle has no more correlation to the black struggle than any other oppressed group in American or global history.

Its always cool to make black people the poster child for struggle and despair...except when we make light of it. Then we are whining, being counterproductive, living in the past and being devise.

This campaign is total BS. Especially when a gay man like J. Edgar Hoover was responsible for killing dozens of our black leaders and causing many of theproblems that plague our community today.

Gay is the new Gay.

There is no correlation that justifies a grouping with the black struggle and experience over any other people struggle and history. Name one thing that gayshave to struggle against that is exclusive or equal to the black struggle....THERE IS NOT ONE.

You got gay cops sodomizing young brothers in my city....but gay is the new black FOH.

Stand on y'all own two and gain your own respect....unless you are being inclusive in your battle for equality and progression, helping to improve oursituation in the process. This is a selfish and underhanded exploitation of our history and current circumstance.

Are gays helping us better our community and situations while riding under our banner? Or are they simply using the horrific parts of racial history and ourpersistent fight for justice and equality to better their lot in life?

There are upper level establishment owned by gays in every part of America that will bar my blackass entry....still to this day .

Now we have the shoulder the brunt of their struggle too...how the hell we ever gonna rise if everyone is piling on our shoulders and when we raise a voice tospeak about it we are told to shut up.

Y'all gotta have more respect for your history and identity than to let this type of subversion go unchallenged.

Is this post from another thread?

 

[hendrix watermelon]

Originally Posted by imaballerballer

the autobiography already stated that he got paid to sprinkle powder on white men's testicles. 

I might be wrong, but wasn't that one of his friends that broke into houses with him? Light skinned dude with freckles I think?

 

[hendrix watermelon]

Originally Posted by imaballerballer

the autobiography already stated that he got paid to sprinkle powder on white men's testicles. 

I might be wrong, but wasn't that one of his friends that broke into houses with him? Light skinned dude with freckles I think?

 

[D StaXX]

I really wish people would get over this gay thing already.
Sickens me that people judge others off their sexual orientation.
Especially my people.

To answer OP's question, it wouldn't change my view at all.

 

[D StaXX]

I really wish people would get over this gay thing already.
Sickens me that people judge others off their sexual orientation.
Especially my people.

To answer OP's question, it wouldn't change my view at all.

 

[zona0924]

Posting for later, but $%+# is sad that half the people posting are so homophobic that they refuse to even consider it possible.

I'll be back soon as I get out of work. 

 

[zona0924]

Posting for later, but $%+# is sad that half the people posting are so homophobic that they refuse to even consider it possible.

I'll be back soon as I get out of work. 

 

[jbone2308]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by jbone2308

So we got brothas in this thread being ok with this stuff coming out. First Ghandi now Malcolm.

Allegations, suggestions are key words. Also white, is a key word.

I'm not buying this because I find it funny no one brings out any prominant white historic figures who mos def dabbled is some #%%! activity. (Hoover)

If you read the thread, countless examples have been posted about white leaders getting exposed for $##$. Difference is, they don't give a $%%. You know the whole Jefferson having kids with slaves thing is common knowledge and could have tarnished his reputation but it was still released. Do some research before you speak.


And why shouldn't brothers be ok with Malcolm being gay...not every brother is mindless, ignorant homophobe.

So because I don't agree with you I'm mindless and ignorant?  You don't know me dude cuz I'm ok if you choose to be gay.  Do I agree nope.  Do I think you are born that way nope.

But do your thing, I'm not hating but I just really think all this stuff coming out serves a purpose and it's not for historical purification.