So does Malcom X having homosexual relations change your view on him?

So we got brothas in this thread being ok with this stuff coming out. First Ghandi now Malcolm.

Allegations, suggestions are key words. Also white, is a key word.

I'm not buying this because I find it funny no one brings out any prominant white historic figures who mos def dabbled is some #%%! activity. (Hoover)
 
Originally Posted by jbone2308

So we got brothas in this thread being ok with this stuff coming out. First Ghandi now Malcolm.

Allegations, suggestions are key words. Also white, is a key word.

I'm not buying this because I find it funny no one brings out any prominant white historic figures who mos def dabbled is some #%%! activity. (Hoover)

If you read the thread, countless examples have been posted about white leaders getting exposed for $##$. Difference is, they don't give a $%%. You know the whole Jefferson having kids with slaves thing is common knowledge and could have tarnished his reputation but it was still released. Do some research before you speak.


And why shouldn't brothers be ok with Malcolm being gay...not every brother is mindless, ignorant homophobe.
 
Originally Posted by jbone2308

So we got brothas in this thread being ok with this stuff coming out. First Ghandi now Malcolm.

Allegations, suggestions are key words. Also white, is a key word.

I'm not buying this because I find it funny no one brings out any prominant white historic figures who mos def dabbled is some #%%! activity. (Hoover)

If you read the thread, countless examples have been posted about white leaders getting exposed for $##$. Difference is, they don't give a $%%. You know the whole Jefferson having kids with slaves thing is common knowledge and could have tarnished his reputation but it was still released. Do some research before you speak.


And why shouldn't brothers be ok with Malcolm being gay...not every brother is mindless, ignorant homophobe.
 
Does it really matter at this point? Just remember the man for what he did for civil rights and not what he did in the bedroom.
 
Does it really matter at this point? Just remember the man for what he did for civil rights and not what he did in the bedroom.
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

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Open your eyes


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Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Deuce King

"Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything." A random white guy says something and some of you black dudes just eat it up as truth, but let a brotha try to educate you on something and you dudes will just write it off.

If Malcolm were gay given that both the NOI and the FBI wanted to bring him down towards the end don't you think news of him being gay would have surfaced years ago. That type of information would have been on the news and on the front paper during the height of his movement. It's time for alot of you dudes to wake and stop feeding into allegations by somebody so random.

I bet you if a story came out now, written by a white guy that said malcom X fathered a family of children with a woman in Zimbabwe you would be like....oh what a pleasant development. He kept it a secret all these years but there seems to be a lot of new evidence coming out.


  

Only thing worse than being wrong is being loud and wrong champ.  Nice try though. 


How was this someone who was random?
He's random because because the author was not a member of the NOI, was never directly associated with Malcolm or the movement at the time, never was in jail with Malcolm when he served his time, never even ate at the same diner as Malcolm back in the day, never went to school with Malcolm, never had a love session with Malcolm, etc., etc.  This guy just pops up with information about Malcolm but he never was apart of his circle or never even came in contact with Malcolm, but you dudes buy stock into what he's selling......
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.    In general, for all the people that knew Malcolm, those in his direct circle, or even government officials that kept files of his whereabouts and even past history on him don't you honestly think a story or two of him being gay would have been surfaced earlier than this. 

Let me ask you DeuceKing, if Malcolm had sex with men in his earlier life, don't you think we can assume he would go to great lengths to preserve that secret? IT certainly is something he wouldn't be vocal about given his position and views.



Given your example, yes I think Malcolm would have gone to great lengths to preserve that secret.  However, I also believe that given that example that somebody would have leaked that story way back when, perhaps one of his "so called" lovers or a friend that knew of his situation that wanted to bring him down during his height. 

Black people have been served the rawest deal out of anyone, you have every reason to distrust/hate white people all that I understand 
Well that's a start champ.  I'm glad you at least can acknowledge that point.

But the homohpobia thing I don't get, it doesn't help y'all to persecute another group


I think you and other are using the word "homophobia" a bit too loosely here.  I think you have to understand, just because someone doesn't care or agree with homosexuality doesn't necessary mean that they are homophobic or have homophobia.  It's no different when somebody doens't agree with somebody or something and the first thing the other person in the conversation says is "your hating", it's not hate.  People like or care for certain things and some people don't, simple as that. 

If a well-respected and renowned historian and author is somebody so "random", then what does that make you Deuce King?


He's random in regard to his dealings and association with Malcolm X, do you not get that??  That's like me coming out with a tell all book about you Big J 33, the first thing most logical people are going to ask or question is my association with you or vice versa. 
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Deuce King

"Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything." A random white guy says something and some of you black dudes just eat it up as truth, but let a brotha try to educate you on something and you dudes will just write it off.

If Malcolm were gay given that both the NOI and the FBI wanted to bring him down towards the end don't you think news of him being gay would have surfaced years ago. That type of information would have been on the news and on the front paper during the height of his movement. It's time for alot of you dudes to wake and stop feeding into allegations by somebody so random.

I bet you if a story came out now, written by a white guy that said malcom X fathered a family of children with a woman in Zimbabwe you would be like....oh what a pleasant development. He kept it a secret all these years but there seems to be a lot of new evidence coming out.


  

Only thing worse than being wrong is being loud and wrong champ.  Nice try though. 


How was this someone who was random?
He's random because because the author was not a member of the NOI, was never directly associated with Malcolm or the movement at the time, never was in jail with Malcolm when he served his time, never even ate at the same diner as Malcolm back in the day, never went to school with Malcolm, never had a love session with Malcolm, etc., etc.  This guy just pops up with information about Malcolm but he never was apart of his circle or never even came in contact with Malcolm, but you dudes buy stock into what he's selling......
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.    In general, for all the people that knew Malcolm, those in his direct circle, or even government officials that kept files of his whereabouts and even past history on him don't you honestly think a story or two of him being gay would have been surfaced earlier than this. 

Let me ask you DeuceKing, if Malcolm had sex with men in his earlier life, don't you think we can assume he would go to great lengths to preserve that secret? IT certainly is something he wouldn't be vocal about given his position and views.



Given your example, yes I think Malcolm would have gone to great lengths to preserve that secret.  However, I also believe that given that example that somebody would have leaked that story way back when, perhaps one of his "so called" lovers or a friend that knew of his situation that wanted to bring him down during his height. 

Black people have been served the rawest deal out of anyone, you have every reason to distrust/hate white people all that I understand 
Well that's a start champ.  I'm glad you at least can acknowledge that point.

But the homohpobia thing I don't get, it doesn't help y'all to persecute another group


I think you and other are using the word "homophobia" a bit too loosely here.  I think you have to understand, just because someone doesn't care or agree with homosexuality doesn't necessary mean that they are homophobic or have homophobia.  It's no different when somebody doens't agree with somebody or something and the first thing the other person in the conversation says is "your hating", it's not hate.  People like or care for certain things and some people don't, simple as that. 

If a well-respected and renowned historian and author is somebody so "random", then what does that make you Deuce King?


He's random in regard to his dealings and association with Malcolm X, do you not get that??  That's like me coming out with a tell all book about you Big J 33, the first thing most logical people are going to ask or question is my association with you or vice versa. 
 
Originally Posted by HanSolo23

Originally Posted by moneymike88

Maybe he wanted to do to white men what they've been doing to black men for hundreds of years


(amirite?)


Real talk I don't agree with the gay lifestyle, but nah it doesn't affect my views on Malcolm.
 
Originally Posted by HanSolo23

Originally Posted by moneymike88

Maybe he wanted to do to white men what they've been doing to black men for hundreds of years


(amirite?)


Real talk I don't agree with the gay lifestyle, but nah it doesn't affect my views on Malcolm.
 
Originally Posted by jbone2308

So we got brothas in this thread being ok with this stuff coming out. First Ghandi now Malcolm.

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Let's say the allegations against Gandhi and Malcolm were true. how would that tarnish anything they had accomplished? it shouldn't. 
 I'm not buying this because I find it funny no one brings out any prominant white historic figures who mos def dabbled is some #%%! activity. (Hoover)


you just did tho 
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Originally Posted by jbone2308

So we got brothas in this thread being ok with this stuff coming out. First Ghandi now Malcolm.

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Let's say the allegations against Gandhi and Malcolm were true. how would that tarnish anything they had accomplished? it shouldn't. 
 I'm not buying this because I find it funny no one brings out any prominant white historic figures who mos def dabbled is some #%%! activity. (Hoover)


you just did tho 
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the autobiography already stated that he got paid to sprinkle powder on white men's testicles. 

folks act like what makes a man is the fact that he can get vagina & enjoy doing it.
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  way to fuel a stereotype.  anyway, why care about what the next man does with his penis?  that's seems kinda homosexual.  focus on pedophiles if you care so much.
 
the autobiography already stated that he got paid to sprinkle powder on white men's testicles. 

folks act like what makes a man is the fact that he can get vagina & enjoy doing it.
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  way to fuel a stereotype.  anyway, why care about what the next man does with his penis?  that's seems kinda homosexual.  focus on pedophiles if you care so much.
 
Malcom X is amazing, regardless of his sexual orientation. I ain't gay but there some pretty lame people on NT. Grow up guys, most people on here aint a quarter of the man Malcom was. If you got hatreds toward bi and gay folk, your just insecure with your sexuallity.
 
Malcom X is amazing, regardless of his sexual orientation. I ain't gay but there some pretty lame people on NT. Grow up guys, most people on here aint a quarter of the man Malcom was. If you got hatreds toward bi and gay folk, your just insecure with your sexuallity.
 
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