***Transformers 2:Revenge Of The Fallen***

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

it was an entertaining movie.. really enjoyed the fight scenes.. but like someone said above in the final battle sequence there were times when i couldn't distiniquish who was who...


and just being nitpicky (cause i did enjoy it).. i thought they could have cut out 10-15mins or so (maybe even 20 mins) in the desert before and after finding the matrix.. and it would have made the film alot smoother.. also i wish they had more of sideswipe in the movie

i also didn't like how they went overboard with the sexual innuendos, fart jokes and the cursing.. a good amount of the stuff was funny.. but they seriously killed the joke.. like wheelie humping megan's leg and megan landing on dude's crotch all weren't needed


and it can get a bit annoying if you start thinking about it too much.. like why there were two sets of contructicons... or why sam wouldnt give the 'dust' to one of the 3 autobots that were with him to take to optimus, instead of running couple miles.. and like xxhu5sl1npnoyxx said, how the hell did the fallen not have any fighting skills, especially when you consider his other powers


personally.. the only reason i think fans of the original series would be disappointed.. was because it is easy to see the potential for a better movie.. and that doesn't make it bad.. but there is room for improvement..

just food for thought.. does anyone think the movie would have been better if it concluded on all the autobots having to fight constructicons and then devastator to prevent him from finding that thing in the pyramid.. and then they are able to get the matrix at the end and revive optimus..

then part III we would still have the fallen, megatron, starscream, and soudwave (who would actually come to earth) to come battle the autobots
its ok, im salty too cuz i wish megan landed on my crotch
 
Originally Posted by CE0 Mal

Movie was awesome.

Side note - A Beast Wars movie would be great, I loved watching that as a kid, too.


Truth...although it would be hella hard because there were no humans in Beast Wars.
 
Originally Posted by jdiaz713

one of the best movies i have seen in my life


Originally Posted by CarminePOWER


BEST. MOVIE. EVAR!!!!


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And this is why it will have a part 3. And the $60 million box office on the opening day doesn't hurt either.
 
Originally Posted by Si3xers55

I never kept up with the cartoon, but as a person that saw the movie I thought that it was horrible. I can appreciate the action scenes and the CGI, but this was just completely and utterly unbelievable. First of all, every single girl at shia leboufs school was a 8+. Even the extras were bangin. Second of all, anything and everything that could have happened in favor of the autobots did. Decepticons started "turning" just so that the autobots could finally win. Once that old $$$ decepticon changed sides i lost interest in the movie. Maybe this follows the storyline of the cartoons (IDK), but I did not like it.

Having said all of this I give this movie a 7 out of 10, and the only reason I do so is because Megan Fox was in it and she looked so incredibly amazing I gave it a 5/10 just for having her in it. Unless I'm 100% sure shes a ******...i'm smashing IDGAF

Why would they have ugly girls in the movie when they can get hot ones?
 
Im a huge movie person, and Im not one of those cry baby critics or anything but I do feel some parts of the movie werent doneright or to well..Its like Michale Bay just slide some !%! under the rug and you cant be doing that when it comes to these epic movies.

- The part where Devastator swallows Mudflap and the twins begin fighting him off in what seems to be a defeat to him all ofsudden just gets clipped to a scene where Devastator is climbing up the pyramid and you have no clue what happened to the twins, they didnt even reappearthrough the rest of the movie-
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- Scorponok just comes out of nowhere in the dessert to fight the old timer with no rhyme or reason but gets offed from the vetwith a slash.. That part was cool only because he got killed by the Old timer but out of all the decepticons to bring back from the first one when you didntknow who lived or died.... you fail to bring back BARRICADE smh-
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- FIGHT SCENES- these were the best ever, hands down. Bumblebee taking care of business was totally on point. Optimus working allthe Decepticons by himself was sick as well. The first movie completely lacked in the fight scene department and this movie made up for it big time-
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- HUMAN ALIEN combo- I think that was a great touch to have the majority of the human race and governments agreeing with theautobots to make an alliance that allowed them to work together to fight off the decepticons for the majority of the movie. In the 1st movie you alwayswondered what were the humans thinking or how are they feeling about all this robot alien invasion and this movie tied that up pretty well and had the armyplaying a great part in winning the battle against Decepticons-
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Overall it was a really Great movie for the most part, there were some loose ends tha needed some adjusting, like I dont know why EVERYTIME the allspark oreven parts of the cube always seem to make DECEPTICONS and never autobots kinda had lil kids askin that question...

MEGAN FOX.. gosh need I say more?? the girl totally blew minds, especially when she gets out of the leather into the white summerdress.. can someone post that pic?????
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It was definitely fun to watch. They got straight to the fighting in the opening scene which was great. The story was generic as expected with bad dialogue butsince I pretty much knew it was going to be that going into it I wasn't too upset. But the action sequences were amazing and looked beautiful. Definitely agreat summer movie but no Star Trek that's for sure.
 
it was real nice watching it on imax last night..well worth the wait
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those twin ghetto bots really irritated me throughout the movie..this is worse than jar-jar binks smh

other than that movie was awesome, too bad michael bay wont direct anymore TF movies
 
Originally Posted by Vidasman

MEGAN FOX.. gosh need I say more?? the girl totally blew minds, especially when she gets out of the leather into the white summer dress.. can someone post that pic?????
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Originally Posted by mustbetheshoe58

it was real nice watching it on imax last night..well worth the wait
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those twin ghetto bots really irritated me throughout the movie..this is worse than jar-jar binks smh

other than that movie was awesome, too bad michael bay wont direct anymore TF movies

really?
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What effed me up was ...If they can take the form of a human, flesh and all....Why the @%% would they wana be machines and robots. The decepticons could easilytake over if they all took the human form
 
Originally Posted by bns1201

movie was trash....makes the first one look like lawrence of arabia
This.

There is always someone on NT making some dumb $!% outlandish statement.
 
^ People who are easily entertained by explosions, and people who want to see Megan Fox.
 
NT is a perfect realm havent we forgot we all drive M3s , and bang Jessica alba , and now megan fox.
 
The i09 review is a perfect summation, the best review.

http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie
Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie
By Charlie Jane Anders, 9:00 AM on Wed Jun 24 2009, 45,001 views (Edit post, Set to draft, Slurp)

Critical consensus on Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is overwhelmingly negative. But the critics are wrong. Michael Bay used a squillion dollars and a hundred supercomputers' worth of CG for a brilliant art movie about the illusory nature of plot.

Oh, and I would warn you that there'll be spoilers in this review - except that, really, since I still have no idea what actually happened in this movie, I'm not sure how much I can spoil it.

Since the days of Un Chien Andalou and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, filmmakers have reached beyond meaning. But with this summer's biggest, loudest movie, Michael Bay takes us all the way inside Caligari's cabinet. And once you enter, you can never emerge again. I saw this movie two days ago, and I'm still living inside it. Things are exploding wherever I look, household appliances are trying to kill me, and bizarre racial stereotypes are shouting at me.

Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense. It's an assault on the senses, a barrage of crazy imagery. Imagine that you went back in time to the late 1960s and found Terry Gilliam, fresh from doing his weird low-fi collage/animations for Monty Python. You proceeded to inject Gilliam with so many steroids his penis shrank to the size of a hair follicle, and you smushed a dozen tabs of LSD under his tongue. And then you gave him the GDP of a few sub-Saharan countries. Gilliam might have made a movie not unlike this one.

And the true genius of Transformers: ROTF is that Bay has put all of this excess of imagery and random ideas at the service of the most pandering movie genre there is: the summer movie. ROTF is like twenty summer movies, with unrelated storylines, smushed together into one crazy whole. You try in vain to understand how the pieces fit, you stare into the cracks between the narrative strands, until the cracks become chasms and the chasms become an abyss into which you stare until it looks deep into your own soul, and then you go insane. You. Do. Not. Leave. The Cabinet.

Michael Bay understands that summer movies are about two things: male anxiety, and pure id. That's why he casts Shia LaBoeuf, that supreme avatar of pure male inadequacy, in the lead role. LaBoeuf projects a pathetic, wall-eyed dorkhood, when he's not babbling like a tumor removed from Woody Allen's prostate that somehow achieved sentience. I imagine the DVD of ROTF will include a whole disk of outtakes where they had to stop filming because LaBoeuf was drooling on camera. As it is, the film includes several extreme closeups of LaBoeuf's dazed stare.

Where was I? Oh yes. So LaBoeuf, who's actually a fine actor, is the stand-in for the male viewers' greatest fears about themselves. No matter how great a loser they might be, they can't be as losery a loser as Sam Witwicky. And yet, Sam has awesome giant robots stomping around telling him he's the most important awesome person ever. And he has the hottest girlfriend in the universe, Megan Fox, for whom banality is a huge aphrodisiac. The more pathetic Sam gets, the more Fox's lips pout and her nipples point, like little Irish setters.

To make matters more awesome for the insecure males in the audience, Sam actually tosses aside his giant robot fanclub and his walking-pinup girlfriend, so he can have a normal life. Of course, this only leads to other robots and hawt chicks (who turn out to be robots too) throwing themselves at him and telling him how important he is. In the end, everybody learns to appreciate Sam just a bit more than they already did, and a booming voice tells him he's earned the "matrix of leadership" through his courage and stuff.

And then there's the "id" part, which is the part where stuff blows up real good, and huge machines smash each other up. And every single performance is so ridiculous that it looks down on "over the top" as if from a great height. It's the part of your brain that thinks it would be awesome to see robots with giant dangling testicles, or hot chicks turning into robot tentacle monsters, or "ghetto" robots that talk in inept hip-hop slang and smash each other playfully, or funny Jewish men who talk about their "schmear" and randomly strip to their G-strings. Is that going too far? Then let's go 100 times farther than that and see what happens!

Transformers: ROTF is so long, you'll need to wear adult diapers to it. But the movie's pure celebration of the primal urge, and unfiltered living, will make you rejoice in your adult diapers. You'll relieve yourself in your seat with a savage joy, your barbaric yawp blending in with the crowd's screams of excitement.

And yet - and here's the part where I really think ROTF approaches "art movie" status - the movie's id overload reaches such crazy levels that the fabric of reality itself starts to break down. Michael Bay has boasted about how every single shot in the movie has so much stuff going on in it, it would take your PC since the dawn of time to render one frame. After a few hours of this assault, you feel the chair melt and the floor of the movie theater becomes an angry mirror into your soul. Nothing is solid, nothing is real, everything Transforms.

The closest thing I can think of to this movie is the Wachowskis' Speed Racer, which had a similar kind of CG image overload, although it was only five hours long as opposed to ROTF's nine.

And around hour six of ROTF, something curious happens: the two components - male enhancement and pure id - start to clash, badly. Usually, in a summer movie, the two aspects go together like **** and +*+: Jason Statham plays someone who faces the same insecurities as regular dudes, but he overcomes them, and in the process he blows up everything in the world. But creating that kind of fusion requires enslaving the id to the male enhancement, and that in turn means only going way over the top instead of crazy, stratospheric over the top. Michael Bay is not willing to settle for going way over the top, like other directors.

So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality - but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There's no such thing as the "real world," and the only thing that's left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you're drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?

So yes, ROTF approaches the sublime, and then just keeps rocketing. Next stop: total anarchy. In a sense, it's the first war movie ever to convey a real sense of the fog of war, the confusion that comes with battle. Somewhere around hour nine, you will understand why friendly fire happens in wartime.

So I've gotten almost all the way through this review, and I still haven't summarized the movie's plot. Here goes. It's a couple years after the first movie, and Sam is going off to college, leaving his transforming car and his hot girlfriend, whom he still hasn't told he loves her. And meanwhile, the soldiers from the first movie are running around with a bunch of late-model GM cars and trucks, which turn into robots and fight other robots sometimes. Sam sees weird symbols which make no sense (and they still make no sense at the end of the movie) and they turn out to be the key to the location of a thing that can control another thing, that will enable the bad guys to destroy the sun. Sam has to embrace the heroic destiny he's rejected, so he can save us all from solarcide.

But that bare plot summary doesn't include the twenty or thirty other storylines that could also claim to be the movie's plot. There's the whole thing where someone from Washington D.C. wonders why the U.S. military is running around the globe with a bunch of late-model GM cars from outer space, and tries to put the kibosh on the military-Autobot complex. There's the teenager who's got a conspiracy website, that competes with another conpsiracy website which turns out to be the work of a secret agent who's decided that the best way to keep things secret is to put them on a website. (It works. I post secret stuff on io9 all the time.) Various robots die and then come back to life, and there's a whole strand about whether Decepticons (the bad ones) can become Autobots (the good ones). And there's the Fallen, who's sort of the movie's villain even though he barely shows up. And people from 17,000 BC who had weird teeth and fought robots. And the ancient Egyptians did stuff. And Sam's parents go to France except that they meet a robot and then they're in Egypt.

Really, I could go on and on. This movie starts out with a coherent storyline, for the first half hour or so, and then it just starts to spin faster and faster until the centrifuge of random events slams you into the walls. It doesn't help that there are 500 robots in the movie and they all look kind of the same.

Oh, but that's the other thing about ROTF. It's actually quite funny, a lot of the time. Some of the jokes fall flat, like the "twin" robots with the ghetto speak, and a lot of the stuff with John Turturro. But the movie's relentless silliness is mostly pretty hilarious, in a Saturday morning cartoon kind of way, and almost nothing in the movie seems intended to be taken seriously.

So, to sum up: Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinema, if not the greatest. You could easily argue that cinema, as an artform, has all been leading up to this. It will destabilize your limbic system, probably forever, and make you doubt the solidity of your surroundings. Generations of auteurs have struggled, in vain, to create a cinematic experience as overwhelming, and as liberating, as ROTF.

Women as well as men, everyone watching this film will feel the dissolution of all their certainties, all their illusory grasp on the world... but after you fall into a brazen despair that the walls of reality have become toxic ice cream of a million flavors, you will gasp with a greater realization: that once the world is reduced, forever, to a kaleidoscope of whirling shapes, you are totally free. Nothing matters, effect precedes cause, fish spawn in mid-air, and you can do whatever you want. Let yourself go in your adult diaper, Michael Bay invites you. Feel the music of total excess stir inside your deepest core. It is your Allspark, your cube. And you are a Transformer.
 
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