BREAKING NEWS: Michael Vick is officially a free man

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Originally Posted by NY Denim Seller

Vince Young > Michael Vick

SMH @ that dude comparing Aikman to Michael Vick.

do they even make stonfaces big enough for that comment?
 
man vince young is some stone cold garbage lol he aint no mike vick ... vick look happy to just be out ... i hope he has a good life
 
You people can't read...all he said was Aikman was a product of better talent around him. And Aikman himself was above average stats wise......which istrue. People let the SB wins blind them.
 
You think Aikman only won because of the better talent around him though. Aikman was a more efficient passer.

Talent doesn't win football games, it helps provide a solid foundation to build on.... but Aikman was the leader of his team and played even moreefficiently when it mattered most. He also was not a distraction to his team off the field, so please don't even mention Vick in the same breath as him.

Its a cop out to stay a guy is a product of the talent around him, same way Big Ben only won his Superbowl's because of his great defense? The guy has tonsof clutch drives to win games, and won a super bowl leading his team down the field.
 
Originally Posted by Deuce King

But why are you guys making it seem like Goodell OWES it to Vick to re-instate him in the first place? Some of yall are making it seem like it's Vick's right to play in the NFL. You should go ahead and serve a 2 year bid and see if you job will welcome you back with open arms. Dude is prolly just happy to be out of jail in the first place. If...and I mean IF he has the opportunity to play in the NFL again, that would be a bonus.


True it's not the right or exclusive priviledge for Vick or anyone else for that matter to play in the NFL but at the same time how much more does Vick has to suffer for his crime?? In all aspects when dealing with punishment, most rationale people look at the severity of the incident/crime in question. With regards to Vick and the majority here in S &T, most people will tell you that Vick has suffered enough already, it's time to move on from the mistakes of the past and give the man a 2nd chance. What's done is done. It's time for people to stop playing judge, juror and executioner.


Seriously. The man has paid his debt to society. 2 year bid. A suspension on top of that would be excessive and unnecessary.

"Not everybody deserves a 2nd chance." That's a pretty damn bold statement.

I hope Vick realizes what type of prick he's dealing with here.
 
Nah...I don't think he(only) won because of that. I'm just saying compared to how people look @ him his stats were nothing special....compared to whathe done....if that makes sense...and others with the same stats and no Rings.


Its almost like Broadyway Joe...see his stats? How the hell is he a HOFer? Yes he brought my Jets its only SB and was a force outside the game...but really?
 
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

you, like him, have no clue what you are talking about ...
You think that Vick had more weapons to work with than Aikman had?
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Originally Posted by AG 47

Originally Posted by Deuce King

But why are you guys making it seem like Goodell OWES it to Vick to re-instate him in the first place? Some of yall are making it seem like it's Vick's right to play in the NFL. You should go ahead and serve a 2 year bid and see if you job will welcome you back with open arms. Dude is prolly just happy to be out of jail in the first place. If...and I mean IF he has the opportunity to play in the NFL again, that would be a bonus.


True it's not the right or exclusive priviledge for Vick or anyone else for that matter to play in the NFL but at the same time how much more does Vick has to suffer for his crime?? In all aspects when dealing with punishment, most rationale people look at the severity of the incident/crime in question. With regards to Vick and the majority here in S &T, most people will tell you that Vick has suffered enough already, it's time to move on from the mistakes of the past and give the man a 2nd chance. What's done is done. It's time for people to stop playing judge, juror and executioner.


Seriously. The man has paid his debt to society. 2 year bid. A suspension on top of that would be excessive and unnecessary.

"Not everybody deserves a 2nd chance." That's a pretty damn bold statement.

I hope Vick realizes what type of prick he's dealing with here.
you think the nfl wants PETA messing around with their business (advertisers)?

someone tell me why vick should be allowed in the nfl without using moral justifications (eg. every man deserves a 2nd chance, which I think he deserves).

Think of it from a purely business standpoint. I don't see the pros outweighing the cons.
 
you think the nfl wants PETA messing around with their business (advertisers)?

someone tell me why vick should be allowed in the nfl without using moral justifications (eg. every man deserves a 2nd chance, which I think he deserves).

Think of it from a purely business standpoint. I don't see the pros outweighing the cons.





You and any other NFL executive that thinks like this is giving PETA way more power than they truly have. Generally speaking the people that are members ofPETA or even agree wholeheartedly with their organization agenda probably aren't even regular NFL fans to begin with. With that in mind, who cares whatPETA tries to do. You really think if Vick plays again in the NFL that PETA is going to strongarm companies like Budweiser, Miller, Coors, Cialis, UnderArmour, Nike, or Viagra from advertising with the NFL, even though these companies spend the most money advertising with the NFL............keep dreamingchamp. PETA simply doesn't have that kind of power, at least not with the NFL or the vast majority of it's fans. Whether you want to believe it ornot, Vick can still draw a crowd, and from an owners perspective it's all about putting +*!!$ in the seats. Vick can do this, now it's up to a team totry their luck with Vick. Forget about PETA or any other clown that might be marching outside of a stadium with demands for Vick to leave, the bottom line isVick can give a subpar team a chance to win, and winning generates money.

Also, if you don't want me to give moral justifications as to why Vick should be allowed back in the NFL whatjustifications would you like for me to give??
 
Originally Posted by Deuce King

you think the nfl wants PETA messing around with their business (advertisers)?

someone tell me why vick should be allowed in the nfl without using moral justifications (eg. every man deserves a 2nd chance, which I think he deserves).

Think of it from a purely business standpoint. I don't see the pros outweighing the cons.


Also, if you don't want me to give moral justifications as to why Vick should be allowed back in the NFL what justifications would you like for me to give??
obviously I want financial reasons. I couldn't care less if he plays or doesn't. I'm just looking at it from the nfl perspective. Theydon't owe him anything, it's a private business.

pros-
sells jerseys

incredible exciting player, (if he's the same)

puts fans in the seats (depending on the state)

cons-
peta will mess with the advertisers (I have huge problems with the organization. they kill more animals than they save, but they are pretty damn efficient andshould not be taken lightly.

media s---storm that will come. You do not want to deal with protestors outside your teams stadium EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY. It's just distracting

when will he be ready to perform?
 
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein

well if you wanna talk about moral justifications, he took the life of an animal and therefore doesnt deserve $*!% ...

I'm guessing you'll be making a citizen's arrest the next time you run into a farmer correct??

pros-
sells jerseys

incredible exciting player, (if he's the same)

puts fans in the seats (depending on the state)

cons-
peta will mess with the advertisers (I have huge problems with the organization. they kill more animals than they save, but they are pretty damn efficient and should not be taken lightly.

media s---storm that will come. You do not want to deal with protestors outside your teams stadium EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY. It's just distracting

when will he be ready to perform?



I like the breakdown you just gave. Even with that in mind I still say that there is no way PETA can shut down the companies I listed in my previous post. Those are some heavy hitters and PETA is small potatoes compared to those businesses. The NFL, Nike, Viagra, Budweiser, etc. are powerhouse's, PETA isNOT, simply put.
 
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