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Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
Someone like myself would have a completely different explanation for that than God having something to do with it. Belief in medicine (in God, in your doctor and in your medicine) does have positive mind altering properties. I don't think it has anything to do with God
You're absolutely right I mean the evidence isn't conclusive by any means. One could either argue that man evolved this feature of belief in a higher being due to the proven positive effects in mental health, or community building and socializing. Also God says in the Qur'an that "10:100 It is not for any soul to believe save by the permission of Allah." Some people most certainly have a genetic propensity towards believing in a higher being, as proven in the "religion helmet" experiment.
http://www.telegraph.co.u...ns-elude-scientists.html
Someone like myself would have a completely different explanation for that than God having something to do with it. Belief in medicine (in God, in your doctor and in your medicine) does have positive mind altering properties. I don't think it has anything to do with God
You're absolutely right I mean the evidence isn't conclusive by any means. One could either argue that man evolved this feature of belief in a higher being due to the proven positive effects in mental health, or community building and socializing. Also God says in the Qur'an that "10:100 It is not for any soul to believe save by the permission of Allah." Some people most certainly have a genetic propensity towards believing in a higher being, as proven in the "religion helmet" experiment.
http://www.telegraph.co.u...ns-elude-scientists.html
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
But isn't god supposed to be 'good?'Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
good and bad are words we use to associate our thoughts/feelings on a situation.
A higher power has nothing to do with those words. We made those for ourselves to gauge events on and around this Earth.
Those events aren't beneficial to humans in any way. (I said before god is not all beneficial. That's what I assume people mean by good)
But explain to me why those incidents or situations would be 'bad' to a 'God' or higher power? Most of them are the result of human intervention somewhere along the line.
But isn't god supposed to be 'good?'Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
good and bad are words we use to associate our thoughts/feelings on a situation.
A higher power has nothing to do with those words. We made those for ourselves to gauge events on and around this Earth.
Those events aren't beneficial to humans in any way. (I said before god is not all beneficial. That's what I assume people mean by good)
But explain to me why those incidents or situations would be 'bad' to a 'God' or higher power? Most of them are the result of human intervention somewhere along the line.
If your city is built around an area where natural disasters occur then it's almost safe to say you can get it. Shorelines, Faultlines, areas where fronts collide often. Your choice to live there, not the higher powers.Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
But isn't god supposed to be 'good?'Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
good and bad are words we use to associate our thoughts/feelings on a situation.
A higher power has nothing to do with those words. We made those for ourselves to gauge events on and around this Earth.
Those events aren't beneficial to humans in any way. (I said before god is not all beneficial. That's what I assume people mean by good)
But explain to me why those incidents or situations would be 'bad' to a 'God' or higher power? Most of them are the result of human intervention somewhere along the line.
How are earthquakes and hurricanes direct results of human intervention? And if god understands the destruction that these things cause, why doesn't he stop them from killing so many of his 'good' people?
If your city is built around an area where natural disasters occur then it's almost safe to say you can get it. Shorelines, Faultlines, areas where fronts collide often. Your choice to live there, not the higher powers.Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
But isn't god supposed to be 'good?'Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Show me a god that doesn't see these things as being bad and I will show you every reason you should have hoped that there wasn't a god. If god were to show his/her face, the hardest thing for believers would be dealing with the fact that they have essentially worshiped a complete a-hole.Originally Posted by PH3N0M3N0N
And who are we as lower beings to say what's good or bad? Do you mean all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-beneficial?Originally Posted by Its That Dude
Just let that sink in a little. A life in which you never knew a higher being existed....
You've seen horrific,and atrocious things like war, genocide, murder, rape, e.g., Holocaust, 9/11, Katrina.
And today, I tell you that there is a God and that he is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good...would you believe me?
Good/Bad are perspectives on situations not concrete states of being.
I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
good and bad are words we use to associate our thoughts/feelings on a situation.
A higher power has nothing to do with those words. We made those for ourselves to gauge events on and around this Earth.
Those events aren't beneficial to humans in any way. (I said before god is not all beneficial. That's what I assume people mean by good)
But explain to me why those incidents or situations would be 'bad' to a 'God' or higher power? Most of them are the result of human intervention somewhere along the line.
How are earthquakes and hurricanes direct results of human intervention? And if god understands the destruction that these things cause, why doesn't he stop them from killing so many of his 'good' people?