- 6,615
- 15,955
- Joined
- Jun 28, 2004
(coaleagues, I must slip back into flag hatin', SJW, Kale gang elitist mode for now, until I come back to you guys, keep on polluting, keep with that winning mindset and before long we finna have so many coal powered satellites that da moon finna turn a(^100)frican America)
It started with a direct parody of ninja but it grew into a lot more and became a repository of many of the right wing online archetypes. While our crowd sourced, hip hop version of the Colbert Report is genuinely funny, it does provoke some serious and not so thoughts as well.
- Need to remind everyone, ninja has never got down with antisemitism, as far as I know. The echoes is purely lifted from other users, not on this board. The same goes for a few of the other, more outrageous things said by #coalgang. As I said, it is an amalgam of all sorts of conservative and libertarian online types all though all of them get put through an urban and Latino America filter.
- This 2015, 2016, 2017 politics thread is different then politics threads 10 years ago or so. I joined in 2004 and while the politics leaned left, there was still a sizeable minority of conservatives. Now, we are unanimously liberal.
The demographics of NT do not seem have changed very much. This forum's population seems largely to be made up of people in and around DC, NYC, LA, the Bay Area and Portland and Seattle. The youth and blackness made sure that NT has always been overwhelmingly democratic. Ten or twelve years ago, one could also find moderate conservatives among NT's other major demographic groups: suburbanites, Asian Americans and Latino Americans .
While George W. Bush's policies were disastrous, his political style was very different from the Tea party and Trump's brand of politics. While he did lead a disgusting fight to limit equal rights for gay people, Bush era Republicans rarely engaged in the apocalyptic, "us or them." For the most part the Bush era message was basically that of "don't be a weirdo, just get a job, a ranch house in a suburban sunbelt, grill steaks on the weekend and just ignore this shrinking share of the electorate known as liberals. Liberals are either snotty aristocrats who go to distant Ivy League schools or they are the weirdos who live in tiny apartments in the nearby big city. They are the strange bleeding hearts who make it hard to find parking when you take you girl friend into the city center to see a play and to eat at a nice restaurant. They are different, quirky, but not a threat to you and you future in suburbia with its perpetually rising home prices, cheap gasoline and guilt free air conditioning. You'll be able to prosper, have two, three, four kids, those weird big city liberals will have zero or maybe one kid, we'll win with Demographics."
That type of normcore politics appeals to white people but also lots of non white people as well. Especially when we had a Democratic Part that tried to be identical on questions of economics and foreign policy, the GOP was able to make party identity a proxy for consumer choices. Dems want you in a studio apartment, eating raw vegetables and driving a smart car. The GOP wants to get you into a real house with a pool, they want hamburgers and steak on your table and they want you driving a big, comfy SUV. In those terms, lots of people choose the latter.
Between then and now, everything has changed. Climate change is appalling undeniable, the housing market crashed, suburbia stagnate, the city has flourished and the GOP base, seeing itself on the wrong end of demographic trends, feels that it is at war with the other.
As a consequence, the suburbs of major cities and anyone who is not deep into white identity politics feels like they have no place in any sort of conservative ideology. The same thing has happened to most Latinos and Americans of Asian descent (including South and West Asians) and as a result, virtually everyone here is now some variant of liberal.
So while it may seem like an echo chamber, if we look at it in a binary conservative versus liberal way, there is actually a great deal of substantive discourse and isagreement among the now very expansive and very liberal universe of American liberalism
- In the future, when the UFC and the various boxing commissions are manufacturing polarizing characters in order to sell pay per view fights, they need to be more imaginative. Some day, I want to see a white, social justice fighter matched up with a self hating black man. Imagine a weigh in where our white leftist, shows up with a Bob Marley tee shirt and a bandana over his face and our self hating black fighter literally tap dances with a Ben Carson/Biggie mashup shirt.
This coal thing has to be one of the longest running gags I have seen on this site
It started with a direct parody of ninja but it grew into a lot more and became a repository of many of the right wing online archetypes. While our crowd sourced, hip hop version of the Colbert Report is genuinely funny, it does provoke some serious and not so thoughts as well.
- Need to remind everyone, ninja has never got down with antisemitism, as far as I know. The echoes is purely lifted from other users, not on this board. The same goes for a few of the other, more outrageous things said by #coalgang. As I said, it is an amalgam of all sorts of conservative and libertarian online types all though all of them get put through an urban and Latino America filter.
- This 2015, 2016, 2017 politics thread is different then politics threads 10 years ago or so. I joined in 2004 and while the politics leaned left, there was still a sizeable minority of conservatives. Now, we are unanimously liberal.
The demographics of NT do not seem have changed very much. This forum's population seems largely to be made up of people in and around DC, NYC, LA, the Bay Area and Portland and Seattle. The youth and blackness made sure that NT has always been overwhelmingly democratic. Ten or twelve years ago, one could also find moderate conservatives among NT's other major demographic groups: suburbanites, Asian Americans and Latino Americans .
While George W. Bush's policies were disastrous, his political style was very different from the Tea party and Trump's brand of politics. While he did lead a disgusting fight to limit equal rights for gay people, Bush era Republicans rarely engaged in the apocalyptic, "us or them." For the most part the Bush era message was basically that of "don't be a weirdo, just get a job, a ranch house in a suburban sunbelt, grill steaks on the weekend and just ignore this shrinking share of the electorate known as liberals. Liberals are either snotty aristocrats who go to distant Ivy League schools or they are the weirdos who live in tiny apartments in the nearby big city. They are the strange bleeding hearts who make it hard to find parking when you take you girl friend into the city center to see a play and to eat at a nice restaurant. They are different, quirky, but not a threat to you and you future in suburbia with its perpetually rising home prices, cheap gasoline and guilt free air conditioning. You'll be able to prosper, have two, three, four kids, those weird big city liberals will have zero or maybe one kid, we'll win with Demographics."
That type of normcore politics appeals to white people but also lots of non white people as well. Especially when we had a Democratic Part that tried to be identical on questions of economics and foreign policy, the GOP was able to make party identity a proxy for consumer choices. Dems want you in a studio apartment, eating raw vegetables and driving a smart car. The GOP wants to get you into a real house with a pool, they want hamburgers and steak on your table and they want you driving a big, comfy SUV. In those terms, lots of people choose the latter.
Between then and now, everything has changed. Climate change is appalling undeniable, the housing market crashed, suburbia stagnate, the city has flourished and the GOP base, seeing itself on the wrong end of demographic trends, feels that it is at war with the other.
As a consequence, the suburbs of major cities and anyone who is not deep into white identity politics feels like they have no place in any sort of conservative ideology. The same thing has happened to most Latinos and Americans of Asian descent (including South and West Asians) and as a result, virtually everyone here is now some variant of liberal.
So while it may seem like an echo chamber, if we look at it in a binary conservative versus liberal way, there is actually a great deal of substantive discourse and isagreement among the now very expansive and very liberal universe of American liberalism
- In the future, when the UFC and the various boxing commissions are manufacturing polarizing characters in order to sell pay per view fights, they need to be more imaginative. Some day, I want to see a white, social justice fighter matched up with a self hating black man. Imagine a weigh in where our white leftist, shows up with a Bob Marley tee shirt and a bandana over his face and our self hating black fighter literally tap dances with a Ben Carson/Biggie mashup shirt.
You guys are crazy
