***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[aepps20]

Broke boy.

Another donation was just made to Jaime

 

[Nike Jordan]

Used to think of Philly and Pittsburgh with PA, but first time rolling through you realize parts are more farmland and country than the south.

Eastern PA is more populated and diverse than the rest of the state.

 

[KHUFU]

Trump destroyed Atlantic City within a decade. Place is a complete dump

Absolutely ruined the damned place. It's in shambles.

 

[wr]

You know, if all of this was happening in another country, the U.S. would be all up in the business in the name of democracy.

And that's exactly what's going on. The stuff the US has done to sway elections in other countries is happening at home now.

 

[Upptempo]

Simply put, there is no mechanism at the federal level to remove politicians who have failed the public from their role (I've seen attempts at recall elections in WI a few years ago - Scott Walker) We have a primitive democracy that doesn't allow the general public to express their disapproval and demand change in between elections. There are no referendums outside of election season and no vote of non confidence in the middle of a Congressional session.

That's why the idea that the Founding Father's created the perfect democracy always makes me chuckle. My view, in light of how easy it has been to break the US political system, is that they democratized aristocracy and by giving the leaders of this country the option to take back or bypass the power of the people to govern.

Totally agree. There is nothing tangible in place that puts a real threat to politicians in situations where they make unforgivable mistakes that allow the public to remove them if they fail at their duties. If you suck at 99% of jobs you're gone but you can be Mitch McConnell and suck for decades and keep your job because votes>performance.


To me, a major issue in American politics is extreme loyalty. People will vote someone in because of what they promise to do, they get elected and do a trash job and instead of being honest and criticizing that politician, they instead choose to defend every action they take. That doesn't help anyone

 

[IATT]

dwalk31

 

[elpablo21]

Elections matter

 

[aepps20]

dwalk31

KHUFU as a PROUD BLACK MAN LIKE MYSELF I CAN SAY THAT ALL THR BLACKS I know are voting TRUMP

 

[KHUFU]

KHUFU as a PROUD BLACK MAN LIKE MYSELF I CAN SAY THAT ALL THR BLACKS I know are voting TRUMP

Voting for him to do what?

 

[aepps20]

Voting for him to do what?

MAGA of course because he has the unique ability to get things passed with a Republican Senate

 

[iheartboost]

I saw this last night, when dude said, "not even a black dog" I lost it

 

[starfox070]

And paid actors

facts

 

[starfox070]

Notice that all the "liberal" organizations like the NBA, MTV, Nike, etc are all saying "Go out and vote!" And none of the "conservative" Organizations are pushing their people to vote. Because they know they'll be able to vote with no issue and the non-republican areas need to put in actual effort to be able to

that and republicans don’t want people to vote their base doesn’t need reminding. I live in a upper middle class area and it still sucks. Overall the lack of funding the government on both sides put into voting is sad. Yet we can pay for a damn fly over at a football game.

 

[elpablo21]

 

[starfox070]

There is a reason why policies in this country are disproportionately pointed towards those 65 and older

that and the electoral college will always mean that policy will straw toward middle American white older demographic.

honestly the electoral college is the problem. A system designed to appease slave states has not purpose in this world. It doesn’t represent the will of the people. Just the will of smaller more polarized hot spots.

also the idea the senate is under the same rule of thumb when it comes to power is trash as well. The house should confirm judges and such not the senate. They have more power than the president at this point.

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

No wonder trump was trying get rid of pbs

 

[Hahahaha]

dwalk31

I don’t know any. None of my family or friends voting for that racist POS. I have a few friends that aren’t voting at all cause they’re told on IG and Facebook that Biden is a pedophile and the crime bill garbage.

Insanely embarrassing and sad

 

[gry60]

To me, a major issue in American politics is extreme loyalty. People will vote someone in because of what they promise to do, they get elected and do a trash job and instead of being honest and criticizing that politician, they instead choose to defend every action they take. That doesn't help

The Gray Area with Sean Illing: A radical — or obvious? — plan to save American democracy on Apple Podcasts

Show The Gray Area with Sean Illing, Ep A radical — or obvious? — plan to save American democracy - Sep 27, 2020

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It comes down to the two party structure of the system which gives literally no alternative to voters who don't agree with the entirety of a party's platform.
Real electoral reform begins there: open up the legislative process to more parties by doing away with FPTP voting, and you entirely negate the voter suppression tactics and negative campaigning because it becomes harder to seek votes just by painting 2/3/4 parties as the worst ever.

 

[elpablo21]

 

[wavycrocket]

To me, a major issue in American politics is extreme loyalty. People will vote someone in because of what they promise to do, they get elected and do a trash job and instead of being honest and criticizing that politician, they instead choose to defend every action they take. That doesn't help anyone

Remember how the framing of support for Trump was them saying they were “holding their nose to vote” and “give him a chance” for Trump voters. They framed it as both Hilary and him were so bad....that they had no choice but to elect a celebrity to office. And they’d see how he did once in office. What actually happened is.....

They have doubled down in resentment and become defensive, that they don’t recognize the bull**** rationale they had in 2016. They’ve ignored him messing up from day 1...played victim and hugged him closer. As he continually drives this country into a ditch, and literal people into mass graves.

It’s also a full blown cult. I been saying this from Day 1....but Trump has been using authoritarian cult tactics. He’s smarter in those senses, than people realize. That’s where his studies have been. In cult tactics, evading the law, mob tactics, disinformation etc.

 

[RustyShackleford]

The Gray Area with Sean Illing: A radical — or obvious? — plan to save American democracy on Apple Podcasts

Show The Gray Area with Sean Illing, Ep A radical — or obvious? — plan to save American democracy - Sep 27, 2020

podcasts.apple.com

It comes down to the two party structure of the system which gives literally no alternative to voters who don't agree with the entirety of a party's platform.
Real electoral reform begins there: open up the legislative process to more parties by doing away with FPTP voting, and you entirely negate the voter suppression tactics and negative campaigning because it becomes harder to seek votes just by painting 2/3/4 parties as the worst ever.

I kinda disagree with this.

You need way more reforms than rank choice voting. Like an entire rework of the political, electoral, and bureaucratic system.

Even the dude Klein interviewed theorizes that Americans had a multiparty system in practice. Conservatives effectively were able to attack progressive Dems, centrist Dems, and centrist Republicans. And even when we had this system, it was held together by an implicit agreement to enforce white supremacy.

 

[wavycrocket]

The 2nd video needs to be played on a LOOP every day, from here on out.

Disgusting

 

[mplsdunk]

Reform starts with Kanye.

 

[sonoftony]

ACB is sharp ngl