***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[KHUFU]

Are you saying black people are also victims of the Democratic Party, to be clear?

 

[blastercombo]

I always found this one of the most puzzling things about the US. The whole pledging to the flag, national anthem obsession comes off as cultish to me.

Belgium in that regard couldn’t be more different. I’ve never been asked to pledge allegiance to anything and have only twice been asked to recite the national anthem. Both were in early elementary school for some event, after that I never had any other interaction with the national anthem.
I couldn’t tell you more than a few lines at most. None of my friends know the anthem, neither do my parents and even a former Prime Minister publicly conceded he had no idea how to recite it. Most of our national football team generally stays silent when the anthem is played before a match, presumably because most don’t know or care. Nobody has ever made a big deal out of it as far as I know. Even when our PM admitted he didn’t know the anthem, it wasn’t really a shock to anyone or that big of a deal to people. The main issue was that we were made an absolute laughingstock in the international press. In the incident, the PM started singing part of France’s national anthem instead of our anthem when prompted and then admitted it was all he knew about national anthems.

So as you can see our countries couldn’t be further apart in this regard.

Just military propaganda stemming back to when they took 18 year old kids to fight in wars and disguised it as an honor.

 

[dacomeup]

Are you saying black people are also victims of the Democratic Party, to be clear?

You said that it sounded like victim blaming. How are you trying to semantics your way into ME saying that Black people are victims of the Democratic Party? Black people are victims of white supremacists in this country full stop. The Republican agenda, at this very moment is leading the way in propagating the white supremacist agenda.

 

[dwalk31]

You said that it sounded like victim blaming. How are you trying to semantics your way into ME saying that Black people are victims of the Democratic Party? Black people are victims of white supremacists in this country full stop. The Republican agenda, at this very moment is leading the way in propagating the white supremacist agenda.

You’d think I asked Biden about packing the Supreme Court with the way you avoided answering that question.

 

[getback]

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

You’d think I asked Biden about packing the Supreme Court with the way you avoided answering that question.

just curious. what do you think he means by white supremacy in his post?

 

[IATT]

 

[dacomeup]

just curious. what do you think he means by white supremacy in his post?

He's deflecting because of his own admission. This is what you do when you can't argue on the substance about literally anything. He has no desire to engage substantively.

A Delk play in 3 acts:
1. Say something asinine or unfounded.
2. Get cornered based on his statements with no reasonable way to respond.
3. Whatabout or deflect or semantics his way out of it.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[KHUFU]

 

[Belgium]

The funniest thing about his casino failures in Atlantic City is that he had them so close to eachother that they were competing with themselves.

 

[IATT]

On the other hand, what you have in Belgium is a population that definitely couldn't be described as a 'proud' people. I think we've perhaps gone a bit too far in the other direction. I think we could use a little more pride. A Prime Minister admitting to not knowing our anthem should've at least been somewhat of a scandal, but it was just treated as expected and business as usual.
Our national holiday generally looks like any other day. You might see a flag here and there but only rarely. Where I live, I wouldn't be able to tell from my local environment that there's a national holiday.

When our national football team plays a big international match however (Worldcup etc), suddenly you see many many more flags than the last 10 national holidays combined.

there’s a deeper convo to be had about Americans with regard to that thou

i think sports plays a huge role, like having nba, nfl and other sports being state/city based.. then a lot of folks going to their local state school if they do go to college at all

but gotta acknowledge the huge level of ignorance, like the folks who go looking for a McDonald’s while traveling abroad.. and don’t know shh about the countries directly north and south of em.. like always kills me how little Americans know about the war of 1812 and what canada did

also the commercial aspect of how “America“ is sold.. and how many groups try to wrap themselves in the flag to excuse some BS and to tap into that whole my sports team mentality

 

[dwalk31]

just curious. what do you think he means by white supremacy in his post?

I think he mentioned white supremacists, directly, in his post. But the idea of white supremacy, generally, is very broad. So giving a quick definition wouldn’t adequately address all of the various forms of white supremacy. But mass incarceration, redlining, voter suppression, discrimination, etc. are all forms of white supremacy.

I also agree with the FBI director’s recent characterization of white supremacy as a persistent and pervasive threat.

 

[Sharpshoeter13]

But, but he can finance his own campaign.

buuut buuuut buuuuut DA COFFERS BOOMED?!

LIBS SABOTAGING EVERYTHING!

 

[blastercombo]

The funniest thing about his casino failures in Atlantic City is that he had them so close to eachother that they were competing with themselves.

Ran that city to the ground and people still thought he could run the country. Atlantic City is a homeless paradise now.

 

[Belgium]

there’s a deeper convo to be had about Americans with regard to that thou

i think sports plays a huge role, like having nba, nfl and other sports being state/city based.. then a lot of folks going to their local state school if they do go to college at all

but gotta acknowledge the huge level of ignorance, like the folks who go looking for a McDonald’s while traveling abroad.. and don’t know shh about the countries directly north and south of em.. like always kills me how little Americans know about the war of 1812 and what canada did

also the commercial aspect of how “America“ is sold.. and how many groups try to wrap themselves in the flag to excuse some BS and to tap into that whole my sports team mentality

Do US history classes teach a lot about Europe? I remembers our focused largely on Europe of course but I do recall learning a decent amount about the US.
We really learned very very little about Asia though and most of that involved WW2.

I remember my history classes just went over the 6 historical periods in chronological order. Most of that ended up focusing on Europe by default due to the Roman and Greek age being such a large part of history.

 

[blastercombo]

Do US history classes teach a lot about Europe? I remembers our focused largely on Europe of course but I do recall learning a decent amount about the US.
We really learned very very little about Asia though and most of that involved WW2.

American history starts with the fake family loving pilgrims saving the Indians, the industrial revolution (minus the slave labor), saving the world with the world wars, and ends with the fighting of “Islam” for 9/11

 

[dacomeup]

Do US history classes teach a lot about Europe? I remembers our focused largely on Europe of course but I do recall learning a decent amount about the US.
We really learned very very little about Asia though and most of that involved WW2.

Absolutely not. I took an AP European history class, otherwise I can't remember learning much about Europe. Even when discussing the World Wars in US History, we discussed them solely from an American perspective.

 

[aepps20]

buuut buuuut buuuuut DA COFFERS BOOMED?!

LIBS SABOTAGING EVERYTHING!

Waltham will cover da tab B.

 

[IATT]

Ran that city to the ground and people still thought he could run the country. Atlantic City is a homeless paradise now.

the man failed at football with all time great players (which will always be the XFL, CFL or whoever else’s biggest issue they can’t get NFL level players)

the man failed at liquor with name/brand recognition

the man failed at casinos again with name/brand recognition

the man failed at steaks again with name/brand recognition in a country where Americans go to countries with the greatest cuisine in the world and look for a McDonald’s

 

[KHUFU]

Do US history classes teach a lot about Europe? I remembers our focused largely on Europe of course but I do recall learning a decent amount about the US.
We really learned very very little about Asia though and most of that involved WW2.

The NINA, PINTA and SANTA MARIA.

The benevolent Queen Isabella was responsible for the pilgrims coming to the new world, then teaching the INDIANS about civilization.

1st Grade.

 

[IATT]

Do US history classes teach a lot about Europe? I remembers our focused largely on Europe of course but I do recall learning a decent amount about the US.
We really learned very very little about Asia though and most of that involved WW2.

I remember my history classes just went over the 6 historical periods in chronological order. Most of that ended up focusing on Europe by default due to the Roman and Greek age being such a large part of history.

it’s taught, but not really.. more of a function to tell their history.. obviously a lot about England but more so to build to their independence

the most depth was with regard to the WWs, but things get skewed

 

[Belgium]

Absolutely not. I took an AP European history class, otherwise I can't remember learning much about Europe. Even when discussing the World Wars in US History, we discussed them solely from an American perspective.

No wonder Americans tend to be stereotyped as ignorant about non-US history.

I think our system of examining the 6 historical periods works well because you simply start with the dinosaurs and work your way up to current events by the time of graduation.

Prehistoric age: 3300 BC to 0
Old age: 3300 BC to 476 AD
Middle ages: 476 to 1543
New age: 1543 to 1789
Newer age: 1789 to 1945
Own age: 1945 to current

 

[IATT]

 

[Sharpshoeter13]

Waltham will cover da tab B.

Of course! It's Da Waltham Wealth

 

[IATT]

Zero clue why NBC is rewarding this dude for F’n up

at some point the media needs to deal with this both sides BS.. or blatantly just looking for ratings instead of just practicing legit journalism

the world doesn’t need to hear why the white supremacist feels oppressed because others are getting anywhere in the vicinity of equal rights

these people gotta realize they made David duke a thing.. and helped that failure and republicans make the country what it is