So does Malcom X having homosexual relations change your view on him?

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

Originally Posted by Guppetto

Notice how media types keep trying to suggest prominent black men were gay. Man take that crap and put it in the garbage. It's this push to tie the struggle of African Americans and Civil Rights to the plight of Gay individuals in America. Unfortunately, Being Gay has nothing to do with being taken from your homeland and beaten and killed through 400 years of indentured servitude. This is what Malcolm meant when he said "Plymouth Rock landed on us". Not buying it, don't believe it, never accepting it and honestly am somewhat offended. Go out half of the Conservative Gay Congressmen that just happen to be Caucasian if you want a real story.


Well said.
It's a rule of thumb that if you care that much about the sexual orientation of another man, chances are this is a reaction formation to your own undesirable homosexual feelings. Being anti-gay is the new gay
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Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

Originally Posted by Guppetto

Notice how media types keep trying to suggest prominent black men were gay. Man take that crap and put it in the garbage. It's this push to tie the struggle of African Americans and Civil Rights to the plight of Gay individuals in America. Unfortunately, Being Gay has nothing to do with being taken from your homeland and beaten and killed through 400 years of indentured servitude. This is what Malcolm meant when he said "Plymouth Rock landed on us". Not buying it, don't believe it, never accepting it and honestly am somewhat offended. Go out half of the Conservative Gay Congressmen that just happen to be Caucasian if you want a real story.


Well said.
It's a rule of thumb that if you care that much about the sexual orientation of another man, chances are this is a reaction formation to your own undesirable homosexual feelings. Being anti-gay is the new gay
ohwell.gif
Nah 
 
Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs


the way you called me and others militant blacks and i called you an internet atheist. You tried to say something derogatory on the slick .C'mon son you know what your saying when you calling us pseudo militants.Your basically calling me a wannabe black panther and a hypocrite and once again you take a jab at religion. Anton your not as slick as you think dude .I called you an internet atheist because your one of those folks who talk alot about religions being stupid or fictional on the internet and when they get in front of real human beings they wouldn't say that at all..

Well I guess Im gonna have to carry the badge of Atheism proudly then
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. But yes a lot of yall ARE wannabe black panthers. I know people like that who are all talk and literally have zero positive contributions to the black community and have a completely misguided sense of what it means to be black/pro-black/ pro-civil rights. A lot of this ignorance/ hypocrisy shows in this thread and congratulations you're  a part of it. There is no difference between the way you think and the way the oppressors think. There's nothing wrong with supporting Malcom X, but there is something wrong with the notion of him somehow being less black/great leader because he might be gay


For the record, I'm openly BLASPHEMOUS/satirical in real life
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....and a lot of my friends are religious. It's really not that big a deal....maybe cause I surround myself with pretty open minded religious folks.

Um religions aren't fictional?
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What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.
 
Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs


the way you called me and others militant blacks and i called you an internet atheist. You tried to say something derogatory on the slick .C'mon son you know what your saying when you calling us pseudo militants.Your basically calling me a wannabe black panther and a hypocrite and once again you take a jab at religion. Anton your not as slick as you think dude .I called you an internet atheist because your one of those folks who talk alot about religions being stupid or fictional on the internet and when they get in front of real human beings they wouldn't say that at all..

Well I guess Im gonna have to carry the badge of Atheism proudly then
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. But yes a lot of yall ARE wannabe black panthers. I know people like that who are all talk and literally have zero positive contributions to the black community and have a completely misguided sense of what it means to be black/pro-black/ pro-civil rights. A lot of this ignorance/ hypocrisy shows in this thread and congratulations you're  a part of it. There is no difference between the way you think and the way the oppressors think. There's nothing wrong with supporting Malcom X, but there is something wrong with the notion of him somehow being less black/great leader because he might be gay


For the record, I'm openly BLASPHEMOUS/satirical in real life
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....and a lot of my friends are religious. It's really not that big a deal....maybe cause I surround myself with pretty open minded religious folks.

Um religions aren't fictional?
nerd.gif
What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.
 
Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius



Well said.
It's a rule of thumb that if you care that much about the sexual orientation of another man, chances are this is a reaction formation to your own undesirable homosexual feelings. Being anti-gay is the new gay
ohwell.gif
Nah 
it's literally never failed.....a lot of people who take a hard line against gays (pause) are using it as a defense mechanism. A lot of people are forced to live double lives because society has deemed homosexuality unsavory (a lot of progress is being made tho). If you were born gay but grew up in a catholic family that constantly preached against homosexuality you are very likely to use this defense mechanism, but true nature always prevails.
 
Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius



Well said.
It's a rule of thumb that if you care that much about the sexual orientation of another man, chances are this is a reaction formation to your own undesirable homosexual feelings. Being anti-gay is the new gay
ohwell.gif
Nah 
it's literally never failed.....a lot of people who take a hard line against gays (pause) are using it as a defense mechanism. A lot of people are forced to live double lives because society has deemed homosexuality unsavory (a lot of progress is being made tho). If you were born gay but grew up in a catholic family that constantly preached against homosexuality you are very likely to use this defense mechanism, but true nature always prevails.
 
you couldn't catch me in the streets without a ton of reefa,
that's like malcom x catchin a jungle feva

nasty nas knows what's up
 
you couldn't catch me in the streets without a ton of reefa,
that's like malcom x catchin a jungle feva

nasty nas knows what's up
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


Well I guess Im gonna have to carry the badge of Atheism proudly then
happy.gif
pimp.gif
ohwell.gif
. But yes a lot of yall ARE wannabe black panthers. I know people like that who are all talk and literally have zero positive contributions to the black community and have a completely misguided sense of what it means to be black/pro-black/ pro-civil rights. A lot of this ignorance/ hypocrisy shows in this thread and congratulations you're  a part of it. There is no difference between the way you think and the way the oppressors think. There's nothing wrong with supporting Malcom X, but there is something wrong with the notion of him somehow being less black/great leader because he might be gay


For the record, I'm openly BLASPHEMOUS/satirical in real life
laugh.gif
laugh.gif
eek.gif
eek.gif
....and a lot of my friends are religious. It's really not that big a deal....maybe cause I surround myself with pretty open minded religious folks.

Um religions aren't fictional?
nerd.gif
What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.


Im not sure there was anyone saying being gay is bad. No one knows at the end of the day exept Malcom himsel these are just allegations. But I do agree with some who said black leaders or even black celebrities are always rumored to be gay. I dont have a problem with gay people but if Malcom wasn't gay then it is wrong for this book to allege that he was.
  
 
I think it depends on when this happened. If it was before prison and before he converted it doesn't change my view of him at all. If it was after that, and after he was married it does tarnish his legacy in MY eyes
 
I think it depends on when this happened. If it was before prison and before he converted it doesn't change my view of him at all. If it was after that, and after he was married it does tarnish his legacy in MY eyes
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


Well I guess Im gonna have to carry the badge of Atheism proudly then
happy.gif
pimp.gif
ohwell.gif
. But yes a lot of yall ARE wannabe black panthers. I know people like that who are all talk and literally have zero positive contributions to the black community and have a completely misguided sense of what it means to be black/pro-black/ pro-civil rights. A lot of this ignorance/ hypocrisy shows in this thread and congratulations you're  a part of it. There is no difference between the way you think and the way the oppressors think. There's nothing wrong with supporting Malcom X, but there is something wrong with the notion of him somehow being less black/great leader because he might be gay


For the record, I'm openly BLASPHEMOUS/satirical in real life
laugh.gif
laugh.gif
eek.gif
eek.gif
....and a lot of my friends are religious. It's really not that big a deal....maybe cause I surround myself with pretty open minded religious folks.

Um religions aren't fictional?
nerd.gif
What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.


Im not sure there was anyone saying being gay is bad. No one knows at the end of the day exept Malcom himsel these are just allegations. But I do agree with some who said black leaders or even black celebrities are always rumored to be gay. I dont have a problem with gay people but if Malcom wasn't gay then it is wrong for this book to allege that he was.
  
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


Well I guess Im gonna have to carry the badge of Atheism proudly then
happy.gif
pimp.gif
ohwell.gif
. But yes a lot of yall ARE wannabe black panthers. I know people like that who are all talk and literally have zero positive contributions to the black community and have a completely misguided sense of what it means to be black/pro-black/ pro-civil rights. A lot of this ignorance/ hypocrisy shows in this thread and congratulations you're  a part of it. There is no difference between the way you think and the way the oppressors think. There's nothing wrong with supporting Malcom X, but there is something wrong with the notion of him somehow being less black/great leader because he might be gay


For the record, I'm openly BLASPHEMOUS/satirical in real life
laugh.gif
laugh.gif
eek.gif
eek.gif
....and a lot of my friends are religious. It's really not that big a deal....maybe cause I surround myself with pretty open minded religious folks.

Um religions aren't fictional?
nerd.gif
What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.

Did I say anything about this destroying the black race helllllll no.I said it would cast skepticism on his beliefs.That happens thats like finding out about Em's racist tapes or finding out that Gandhi was a racist.
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


Well I guess Im gonna have to carry the badge of Atheism proudly then
happy.gif
pimp.gif
ohwell.gif
. But yes a lot of yall ARE wannabe black panthers. I know people like that who are all talk and literally have zero positive contributions to the black community and have a completely misguided sense of what it means to be black/pro-black/ pro-civil rights. A lot of this ignorance/ hypocrisy shows in this thread and congratulations you're  a part of it. There is no difference between the way you think and the way the oppressors think. There's nothing wrong with supporting Malcom X, but there is something wrong with the notion of him somehow being less black/great leader because he might be gay


For the record, I'm openly BLASPHEMOUS/satirical in real life
laugh.gif
laugh.gif
eek.gif
eek.gif
....and a lot of my friends are religious. It's really not that big a deal....maybe cause I surround myself with pretty open minded religious folks.

Um religions aren't fictional?
nerd.gif
What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.

Did I say anything about this destroying the black race helllllll no.I said it would cast skepticism on his beliefs.That happens thats like finding out about Em's racist tapes or finding out that Gandhi was a racist.
 
Originally Posted by nom de guerre

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.


Im not sure there was anyone saying being gay is bad. No one knows at the end of the day exept Malcom himsel these are just allegations. But I do agree with some who said black leaders or even black celebrities are always rumored to be gay. I dont have a problem with gay people but if Malcom wasn't gay then it is wrong for this book to allege that he was.
  
a lot of that is implied in this thread. Being gay is very anti-black and even more anti-muslim. Hence people in this thread saying, converting to Islam must have made him less gay. The ignorance on NT never ceases to amaze.
 
Originally Posted by nom de guerre

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

What did I say in this thread thats hypocritical.

funny thing is I don't think I was referring to Malcolm supporters when I was going at the fake NT militants, I was referring to the ignorant 4%##$%$ who think Malcolm being gay is the demise of the African American race as we know it. And you responded contentiously....so I assumed you agreed with said ignorant #%$#$$%$.



If you think malcolm possibly being gay is not a problem, then there's no beef here. I don't agree with everything he says but he's a great leader in his own right.


Im not sure there was anyone saying being gay is bad. No one knows at the end of the day exept Malcom himsel these are just allegations. But I do agree with some who said black leaders or even black celebrities are always rumored to be gay. I dont have a problem with gay people but if Malcom wasn't gay then it is wrong for this book to allege that he was.
  
a lot of that is implied in this thread. Being gay is very anti-black and even more anti-muslim. Hence people in this thread saying, converting to Islam must have made him less gay. The ignorance on NT never ceases to amaze.
 
Who cares about brother Malcolm's sexual orientation? If he was bisexual does that somehow take away from his accomplishments during the civil rights movement? Certainly not. So this is a non-issue imo.
 
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