The hardest job in America. vol. I'm a black man in America

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Is being a black man the hardest job in America? I honestly think so.  And before anybody gets all riled up I know that every other race and gender has problems too. Not every white person was born rich and not every black person is from the hood. I know that but I'm talking on average.

And let me get all the basic, simple minded responses out the way.

Great you "didn't read"
Yes this is another race thread.
Yes slavery happened and no I'm not going to get over it.
Yes WSHH and BET suck.

I feel like we areled to worry about all the wrong things in life. Its not even our fault half the time its just how we get raised. Then once we hit the real world we're not prepared AND we have to overcome and battle other obstacles. You can say we are at fault for aspiring to be athletes and entertainers right? But why aren't the parents leading the kids in the direction of actual careers? Because the damn parents are just happy to have a job and support a family. They can't tell a kid to start building a resume and prepare them for college when they never went through that experience. They just want their kid to be happy and if football or singing makes them happy so be it.

The problem is that cycle is killing us. We really need more professionals to get out here and show us how its done at a young age. We are at a real disadvantage when it comes to networking. And lets just say we do get a good job right. Can we recommend our friends to get hired too? Naw you can't be the black guy that brings the other black guys to the party. You just gotta be happy you got invited. It's really crazy out here.

I could go on for days about different problems but I'd like to hear from ya'll.
Chris Rock said it best in his last stand up. In a nutshell he gave the example of where he lived and how he lived next to a dentist. Chris Rock...Arguably one of the most recognizable black men in the planet, lives next to a (white) dentist.
More professionals is such a vague term though. I urge NT, to seperate from perscribing the source of the problem, and focus more on the solution aspect. All too often these threads are filled with arguments of semantics and how something REALLY happened ect......Who cares? Am I the only one out here who seems more motivated by finding rational answers, than the actual reason the problems exist in the first place?

I doubt the answer to the problem is as simple as more professionals, and the source as simple as parenthood.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Is being a black man the hardest job in America? I honestly think so.  And before anybody gets all riled up I know that every other race and gender has problems too. Not every white person was born rich and not every black person is from the hood. I know that but I'm talking on average.

And let me get all the basic, simple minded responses out the way.

Great you "didn't read"
Yes this is another race thread.
Yes slavery happened and no I'm not going to get over it.
Yes WSHH and BET suck.

I feel like we areled to worry about all the wrong things in life. Its not even our fault half the time its just how we get raised. Then once we hit the real world we're not prepared AND we have to overcome and battle other obstacles. You can say we are at fault for aspiring to be athletes and entertainers right? But why aren't the parents leading the kids in the direction of actual careers? Because the damn parents are just happy to have a job and support a family. They can't tell a kid to start building a resume and prepare them for college when they never went through that experience. They just want their kid to be happy and if football or singing makes them happy so be it.

The problem is that cycle is killing us. We really need more professionals to get out here and show us how its done at a young age. We are at a real disadvantage when it comes to networking. And lets just say we do get a good job right. Can we recommend our friends to get hired too? Naw you can't be the black guy that brings the other black guys to the party. You just gotta be happy you got invited. It's really crazy out here.

I could go on for days about different problems but I'd like to hear from ya'll.
Chris Rock said it best in his last stand up. In a nutshell he gave the example of where he lived and how he lived next to a dentist. Chris Rock...Arguably one of the most recognizable black men in the planet, lives next to a (white) dentist.
More professionals is such a vague term though. I urge NT, to seperate from perscribing the source of the problem, and focus more on the solution aspect. All too often these threads are filled with arguments of semantics and how something REALLY happened ect......Who cares? Am I the only one out here who seems more motivated by finding rational answers, than the actual reason the problems exist in the first place?

I doubt the answer to the problem is as simple as more professionals, and the source as simple as parenthood.
 
Originally Posted by NubianDisaster

so dumb people can't tell their children to not be gangsters and to succeed? k.
usually parents want whats best for their children.
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Son how old are you?  I'm talking about the "gangsters" and "hoodrats".  What about their children?  If a dude is 40 years old with 5 kids and his only priority is dropping a mixtape you think he's telling his kids the right things?  C'mon son are you living that sheltered life?  You must've never seen a ignorant adult.
 
Originally Posted by NubianDisaster

so dumb people can't tell their children to not be gangsters and to succeed? k.
usually parents want whats best for their children.
eyes.gif


  
laugh.gif
Son how old are you?  I'm talking about the "gangsters" and "hoodrats".  What about their children?  If a dude is 40 years old with 5 kids and his only priority is dropping a mixtape you think he's telling his kids the right things?  C'mon son are you living that sheltered life?  You must've never seen a ignorant adult.
 
2nd hardest, because of NAFTA and other free trade/globalization agreements the latin-immigrant is the modern american slave of the 21st century
 
2nd hardest, because of NAFTA and other free trade/globalization agreements the latin-immigrant is the modern american slave of the 21st century
 
Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Stop listening to Rap/hip-hop/etc

Real talk... you've got America's most successful black men STILL rapping about gangster @#%@. What do you think kids are gonna do? The root of the entire problem is that lifestyle in the hood is almost idolized. Being "about that life" etc.


You really think the next generation of black American's would have it so hard if instead of listening to Birdman you were listening to Arcade Fire.

I'm also going to acknowledge the fact I'm way off... but I have a point



Hip Hop/ Rap is the culture. The culture has just been infiltrated and saturated to were we think it's only what we see now. The music we have now is our's. The beat and the rhythm is apart of culture. Now the lyrics is something else.
 
Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Stop listening to Rap/hip-hop/etc

Real talk... you've got America's most successful black men STILL rapping about gangster @#%@. What do you think kids are gonna do? The root of the entire problem is that lifestyle in the hood is almost idolized. Being "about that life" etc.


You really think the next generation of black American's would have it so hard if instead of listening to Birdman you were listening to Arcade Fire.

I'm also going to acknowledge the fact I'm way off... but I have a point



Hip Hop/ Rap is the culture. The culture has just been infiltrated and saturated to were we think it's only what we see now. The music we have now is our's. The beat and the rhythm is apart of culture. Now the lyrics is something else.
 
Black people get paid to be black?!?!?!?!

You know what... nevermind I'm not even gonna touch this one... coulda hit it hard.

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Man, everyone has had a time when they felt that they have been unfairly treated because of their race or skin color.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I honestly think Asians have it the worse. I'll break it into cliff-notes because no one wants to read anymore.

Cliffs: Asians have it worse in the U.S.
-Tons of jokes discriminating Asians, yet no one finds it in poor taste.
-No representation in entertainment or sports.
-No activists like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton speaking up for Asian equality.
-No one significant in political affairs. <---Important.
-City wants a new stadium? Cool. Where do they usually propose to put it? In Chinatown or an Asian neighborhood.
-Asians were slaves in the U.S. as well... Yet NO ONE ever talks about it in our education system or anywhere actually.
-Many still consider Japanese businessmen as our "enemy."
-Most Asian men are stereotyped by the woman of other nationalities. <----Ouch.
-U.S. Chinese Exclusion Act lasted from 1882-1943.
-Internment camps during WWII... For Asian American CITIZENS... On U.S. soil...

Wow. That's a lot of cliffs. However, I realize that I could have kept going. Just my opinion.
 
Man, everyone has had a time when they felt that they have been unfairly treated because of their race or skin color.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I honestly think Asians have it the worse. I'll break it into cliff-notes because no one wants to read anymore.

Cliffs: Asians have it worse in the U.S.
-Tons of jokes discriminating Asians, yet no one finds it in poor taste.
-No representation in entertainment or sports.
-No activists like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton speaking up for Asian equality.
-No one significant in political affairs. <---Important.
-City wants a new stadium? Cool. Where do they usually propose to put it? In Chinatown or an Asian neighborhood.
-Asians were slaves in the U.S. as well... Yet NO ONE ever talks about it in our education system or anywhere actually.
-Many still consider Japanese businessmen as our "enemy."
-Most Asian men are stereotyped by the woman of other nationalities. <----Ouch.
-U.S. Chinese Exclusion Act lasted from 1882-1943.
-Internment camps during WWII... For Asian American CITIZENS... On U.S. soil...

Wow. That's a lot of cliffs. However, I realize that I could have kept going. Just my opinion.
 
Black people get paid to be black?!?!?!?!

You know what... nevermind I'm not even gonna touch this one... coulda hit it hard.

4ikk1h.png
 
Originally Posted by MrBen23

Man, everyone has had a time when they felt that they have been unfairly treated because of their race or skin color.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I honestly think Asians have it the worse. I'll break it into cliff-notes because no one wants to read anymore.

Cliffs: Asians have it worse in the U.S.
-Tons of jokes discriminating Asians, yet no one finds it in poor taste.
-No representation in entertainment or sports.
-No activists like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton speaking up for Asian equality.
-No one significant in political affairs. <---Important.
-City wants a new stadium? Cool. Where do they usually propose to put it? In Chinatown or an Asian neighborhood.
-Asians were slaves in the U.S. as well... Yet NO ONE ever talks about it in our education system or anywhere actually.
-Many still consider Japanese businessmen as our "enemy."
-Most Asian men are stereotyped by the woman of other nationalities. <----Ouch.
-U.S. Chinese Exclusion Act lasted from 1882-1943.
-Internment camps during WWII... For Asian American CITIZENS... On U.S. soil...

Wow. That's a lot of cliffs. However, I realize that I could have kept going. Just my opinion.


  You can't honestly believe its worse for asians.  When it comes to $ you guys are winning.  Kids get forced into 4.0 gpas and masters degrees.  Then alot of you guys own your businesses. 
 
Originally Posted by MrBen23

Man, everyone has had a time when they felt that they have been unfairly treated because of their race or skin color.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I honestly think Asians have it the worse. I'll break it into cliff-notes because no one wants to read anymore.

Cliffs: Asians have it worse in the U.S.
-Tons of jokes discriminating Asians, yet no one finds it in poor taste.
-No representation in entertainment or sports.
-No activists like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton speaking up for Asian equality.
-No one significant in political affairs. <---Important.
-City wants a new stadium? Cool. Where do they usually propose to put it? In Chinatown or an Asian neighborhood.
-Asians were slaves in the U.S. as well... Yet NO ONE ever talks about it in our education system or anywhere actually.
-Many still consider Japanese businessmen as our "enemy."
-Most Asian men are stereotyped by the woman of other nationalities. <----Ouch.
-U.S. Chinese Exclusion Act lasted from 1882-1943.
-Internment camps during WWII... For Asian American CITIZENS... On U.S. soil...

Wow. That's a lot of cliffs. However, I realize that I could have kept going. Just my opinion.


  You can't honestly believe its worse for asians.  When it comes to $ you guys are winning.  Kids get forced into 4.0 gpas and masters degrees.  Then alot of you guys own your businesses. 
 
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by NubianDisaster

so dumb people can't tell their children to not be gangsters and to succeed? k.
usually parents want whats best for their children.
eyes.gif


  
laugh.gif
Son how old are you?  I'm talking about the "gangsters" and "hoodrats".  What about their children?  If a dude is 40 years old with 5 kids and his only priority is dropping a mixtape you think he's telling his kids the right things?  C'mon son are you living that sheltered life?  You must've never seen a ignorant adult.

im not denying that there are ignorant adults that have children. 
I've never been in a %@%@!*@ household.

but like I said, usually parents want whats best for their children. 

the key word is bolded by the way. 
 
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by NubianDisaster

so dumb people can't tell their children to not be gangsters and to succeed? k.
usually parents want whats best for their children.
eyes.gif


  
laugh.gif
Son how old are you?  I'm talking about the "gangsters" and "hoodrats".  What about their children?  If a dude is 40 years old with 5 kids and his only priority is dropping a mixtape you think he's telling his kids the right things?  C'mon son are you living that sheltered life?  You must've never seen a ignorant adult.

im not denying that there are ignorant adults that have children. 
I've never been in a %@%@!*@ household.

but like I said, usually parents want whats best for their children. 

the key word is bolded by the way. 
 
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by MrBen23


  You can't honestly believe its worse for asians.  When it comes to $ you guys are winning.  Kids get forced into 4.0 gpas and masters degrees.  Then alot of you guys own your businesses. 
Yeah, I do. I may be stirring the pot a little bit, but I want to show the perspective of other nationalities. I'm white/Filipino. And your response in itself, is a racist sterotype, therefore proving my point.
 
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by MrBen23


  You can't honestly believe its worse for asians.  When it comes to $ you guys are winning.  Kids get forced into 4.0 gpas and masters degrees.  Then alot of you guys own your businesses. 
Yeah, I do. I may be stirring the pot a little bit, but I want to show the perspective of other nationalities. I'm white/Filipino. And your response in itself, is a racist sterotype, therefore proving my point.
 
Originally Posted by MrBen23

Man, everyone has had a time when they felt that they have been unfairly treated because of their race or skin color.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I honestly think Asians have it the worse. I'll break it into cliff-notes because no one wants to read anymore.

Cliffs: Asians have it worse in the U.S.
-Tons of jokes discriminating Asians, yet no one finds it in poor taste.
-No representation in entertainment or sports.
-No activists like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton speaking up for Asian equality.
-No one significant in political affairs. <---Important.
-City wants a new stadium? Cool. Where do they usually propose to put it? In Chinatown or an Asian neighborhood.
-Asians were slaves in the U.S. as well... Yet NO ONE ever talks about it in our education system or anywhere actually.
-Many still consider Japanese businessmen as our "enemy."
-Most Asian men are stereotyped by the woman of other nationalities. <----Ouch.
-U.S. Chinese Exclusion Act lasted from 1882-1943.
-Internment camps during WWII... For Asian American CITIZENS... On U.S. soil...

Wow. That's a lot of cliffs. However, I realize that I could have kept going. Just my opinion.
what inequality? you and white people basically run the world, if anything asians are at the top of the economic ladder.

Here in america yall own your own businesses in BLACK communities, and keep the money to yourselves, look at any beauty supply store/nail salon/clothing store even your local chinese food spot is bound for success

hands down an asian man will get hired 5x quicker than a black man, @*%@ they probably are one up on white people aswell
 
Originally Posted by MrBen23

Man, everyone has had a time when they felt that they have been unfairly treated because of their race or skin color.

Unfortunately, after reading this thread, I honestly think Asians have it the worse. I'll break it into cliff-notes because no one wants to read anymore.

Cliffs: Asians have it worse in the U.S.
-Tons of jokes discriminating Asians, yet no one finds it in poor taste.
-No representation in entertainment or sports.
-No activists like Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton speaking up for Asian equality.
-No one significant in political affairs. <---Important.
-City wants a new stadium? Cool. Where do they usually propose to put it? In Chinatown or an Asian neighborhood.
-Asians were slaves in the U.S. as well... Yet NO ONE ever talks about it in our education system or anywhere actually.
-Many still consider Japanese businessmen as our "enemy."
-Most Asian men are stereotyped by the woman of other nationalities. <----Ouch.
-U.S. Chinese Exclusion Act lasted from 1882-1943.
-Internment camps during WWII... For Asian American CITIZENS... On U.S. soil...

Wow. That's a lot of cliffs. However, I realize that I could have kept going. Just my opinion.
what inequality? you and white people basically run the world, if anything asians are at the top of the economic ladder.

Here in america yall own your own businesses in BLACK communities, and keep the money to yourselves, look at any beauty supply store/nail salon/clothing store even your local chinese food spot is bound for success

hands down an asian man will get hired 5x quicker than a black man, @*%@ they probably are one up on white people aswell
 
Originally Posted by MrBen23

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by MrBen23


  You can't honestly believe its worse for asians.  When it comes to $ you guys are winning.  Kids get forced into 4.0 gpas and masters degrees.  Then alot of you guys own your businesses. 
Yeah, I do. I may be stirring the pot a little bit, but I want to show the perspective of other nationalities. I'm white/Filipino. And your response in itself, is a racist sterotype, therefore proving my point.


Ok 4.0 gpas is a stereotype.  But asians do make up a high percentage of ivy league schools.  The same way you could say we are good athletes.  We make up a high percentage of division I and professional basketball, football, track.  I just think as black men we are guilty until proven otherwise.  Entering the real world we have to show people we aren't Gucci Mane before we can get any type of respect.  Look at WSHH.  All the damage that site does and I bet the person behind it isn't even black.  What type of media outlet is holding back asians? 
 
Originally Posted by MrBen23

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by MrBen23


  You can't honestly believe its worse for asians.  When it comes to $ you guys are winning.  Kids get forced into 4.0 gpas and masters degrees.  Then alot of you guys own your businesses. 
Yeah, I do. I may be stirring the pot a little bit, but I want to show the perspective of other nationalities. I'm white/Filipino. And your response in itself, is a racist sterotype, therefore proving my point.


Ok 4.0 gpas is a stereotype.  But asians do make up a high percentage of ivy league schools.  The same way you could say we are good athletes.  We make up a high percentage of division I and professional basketball, football, track.  I just think as black men we are guilty until proven otherwise.  Entering the real world we have to show people we aren't Gucci Mane before we can get any type of respect.  Look at WSHH.  All the damage that site does and I bet the person behind it isn't even black.  What type of media outlet is holding back asians? 
 
Blacks in a reputable college where the only other Blacks are the remaining 5% of the undergraduate population, 1% of the faculty, 4% of the administration and 95% of the cooks, custodians, maintenance men, and other low-skill jobs.
Blacks in a challenging profession where you're the sole representative in the entire office. Please show me all the Black Sales/Traders on the Exchange floor. Or the teachers that AREN'T in elementary schools. Or the Lawyers in top 5 firms. Or the Consultants at MBB.

*I'm pretty sure at Princeton there are more Black workers than there are students. Same at Harvard, Cornell, Yale, Brown, UPENN, Columbia, and Dartmouth.*
 
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