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Why do African Americans continue to practice Christianity if it was forced upon them during slavery
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Moses and Joshua both spoke to God himself. They didnt need someone to mediate, it was one on one convo direct with God.What college did Moses go to? Which college did Joshua go to? Which college did the man you call Jesus christ go to?
Your pimps in the pulpit are NOT fit to teach the scriptures, not one of them. Instead, they subscribe to the ROMAN CATHOLIC doctrine (through seminary colleges), and are subject to the IRS under the 501c3.. plenty of things they can't even discuss with the congregation, you call that making a deal with God I suppose?Those pimps know you "christians" just want to feel good for a day and have hijacked and perverted the word of the Lord to do just that. And based off the madness you writing, sounds like they got you real good
2 Corinthians 11:13 [COLOR=#red]For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [/COLOR]
2 Corinthians 11:14 [COLOR=#red]And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.[/COLOR]
2 Corinthians 11:15 [COLOR=#red]Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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Jeremiah 23:1 [COLOR=#red] Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture![/COLOR] saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:2 [COLOR=#red]Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.[/COLOR]
My pimps?
Again, you are generalizing and stereotyping. Not all pastors are frauds. There are many who claim to be doing Gods work but they are actually destroying., Many preachers and pastors are frauds but not all are. My pastor is not a fraud. He does not scatter sheep. My pastor is an actual pastor, not an apostle.He is fit to teach the scriptures. Do you know where he went to seminary? No. Stop making assumptions.
You sir are typing madness.
Im man enough to say I am a christian. Are you man enough to share what religion you practice?
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In your opinion.
Exactly lol. Carry on
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Say word? Do you believe that the Bible is inspired by God's desires?
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Look it up for yourself.
Also, this is from that same chapter, Exodus 21:
"(7) If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. (If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself..."
Finish it yourself. Lots of good stuff: rules for beating your slave, rules for selling your daughter... and this is the chapter RIGHT AFTER the Ten Commandments.
P.S. I graduated from a Bible College. Graduated in 2008 w/ a degree in Advanced Biblical Studies. Used to be a youth pastor. That should have no bearing on what I've just presented to you, but I see that credentials mean something to you.
Not all colleges are created equal. Some credible, some not so much.
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Say word? Do you believe that the Bible is inspired by God's desires?
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Look it up for yourself.
Also, this is from that same chapter, Exodus 21:
"(7) If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. (
Finish it yourself. Lots of good stuff: rules for beating your slave, rules for selling your daughter... and this is the chapter RIGHT AFTER the Ten Commandments.
P.S. I graduated from a Bible College. Graduated in 2008 w/ a degree in Advanced Biblical Studies. Used to be a youth pastor. That should have no bearing on what I've just presented to you, but I see that credentials mean something to you.
Do you at least get an associates degree from seminary school?
Seems like a huge waste to go to school for pastoring and turn out not believing and not wanting to be a pastor
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What does your pastor teach thats different from all others? Please, tell me.
Sunday worship?
Eat pork?
Shave your beard?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter and all other pagan holidays?
Does he prophesy of the coming rulership of Gods chosen people?
Does your pimp touch on any of those things?
Does he even know his nationality according to the scriptures?
A seminary don't mean a damn thing.
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what does going to a bible college have to do with reading.... I mean maybe it does to you because you take the fact he went to a bible college inconsideration when he interpret tells you what he thinks god meant....
I don't need to go to a bible college to read... a man shall strike his slaves with his rod so long as he doesn't die at his hands... That means I can beat you so long as you don't die... no phd... no yrs of school is needed to see that says this...
that would be like saying I need a scientist and a person with a degree to see h20 equals hydrogen and oxygen...
I don't need to have a doctorate to read.... slaves shall honor and obey their masters for they are an extension and reflection of god...
honor and worship means the same thing to anyone regardless of religious beliefs lack their of... race creed etc.... unless you are suggesting honor and obey means a totally different thing specifically for just blacks who read the bible... cause those very verses meant to whites and everyone else as you a slave you shall obey and honor me... you shall do as told.... if you are defiant and disobey I can beat you so long as I don't kill you..
that means just that aint like that means some totally different exact opposite thing in terms of black Christians... and that's basically what your saying.. your saying language words.... have an entirely different meaning and connotation specifically to a certain group race of ppl in a certain area of the world... and your proof is because a person who went to school with a degree says so...
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What does your pastor teach thats different from all others? Please, tell me.
Sunday worship?
Eat pork?
Shave your beard?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter and all other pagan holidays?
Does he prophesy of the coming rulership of Gods chosen people?
Does your pimp touch on any of those things?
Does he even know his nationality according to the scriptures?
A seminary don't mean a damn thing.
Your ignoring my questions, disrespecting me and my pastor ( no pimp) This is my last reply to you.
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man having a phd at a bible school is like getting a masters in fairytale ology... an associates in santa claus..
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Bible college means nothing, I suggest dudes watch DR.Khalid Muhammad vs Pastor Chuck, it's 3hrs but Khalid straight embarrasses the pastor lol even then the argument isn't that religion is wrong it is that there are snakes using these text for individual gain. You don't has to agree with a religion doesn't mean people who practice it are of lesser worth than you. What we all can agree with though is religion has been used as a tool to control masses.
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bye papi
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I just don't get the religion bashers, is It wrong there are people who found text that helped them get trough hard times and create a sense of hope that helped them get through life? Especially If that person doesn't force their belief on you. Do you all criticize people who smoke weed to "ease the pain" and get through tough times? What about people who listen to certain songs for motivation ie.thug motivation or something? How can you bash religious people of being slaves to a fairy tale when majority of you are salves to corporations? We have hundred page Supreme thread of dudes going to outta house lengths to buy clothing that add zero functionality to their life yet you can criticize people who read text that are Free and call them stupid? Talk about pot calling the kettle black.
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no not all are frauds many do believe but they are all frauds in the sense that all have no credence credibility proven fact... irrefutable evidence...
difference is some do actually believe and try to seek good and want whats best for others... and others use it as a mean to exploit and use those unwise and foolish...
Its like I spoke on it early I deal with a lot of these organizations and some like pastor tonya brown many others in the metro atl area while they believe they are provided and trying to do for others... then you have your eddie longs... (still don't see why ppl would put faith in a corporate crook...oh I guess cause he asked for forgiveness lol) the minister mikes the angel food ministries etc...
And a lot of ppl swear they know their pastor unless you in the books you know nothing... you know the image/the persona this person displays and portray.. That goes with any and all ppl... Unless you have a true personal one on one relationship with a person you don't know ish... you just know what others say/portray them as... and the person the portray themselves to be.
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Really? Santa Clause and Jesus both existed? Youre just being silly now man.
Bible college means nothing if........they are teaching lies. Just because Dr.Muhammad and Pastor Chuch are 1 example, that doesnt mean every other pastor is like him.
I agree with you, religion has been used to control the masses. Catholic church is a great example and so is the Jihad.
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Ignoring the substance of what I posted, I see.Not all colleges are created equal. Some credible, some not so much.Say word? Do you believe that the Bible is inspired by God's desires?
Look it up for yourself.
Also, this is from that same chapter, Exodus 21:
"(7) If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. (If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself..."
Finish it yourself. Lots of good stuff: rules for beating your slave, rules for selling your daughter... and this is the chapter RIGHT AFTER the Ten Commandments.
P.S. I graduated from a Bible College. Graduated in 2008 w/ a degree in Advanced Biblical Studies. Used to be a youth pastor. That should have no bearing on what I've just presented to you, but I see that credentials mean something to you.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, too. You see, I was going to include a P.P.S. in that reply, and it was going to say "You're going to be tempted to avoid the meat of what I said, and choose to respond with questions/comments about my background. Don't. Just stick with the actual verse I posted and let's discuss that, since (literally) I have nothing to do with the verse, but it is, indeed, in the Bible.
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I am in the books, I know my pastor now over 20 years. He's a very transparent individual and he is not one of those frauds we read about and see in the media. Its the good people who dont get attention in the papers and internet. We only read and see the liars and thieves.
Its a corny cliche, but it fits our convo, "all that glitters is not gold".
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damn, ran out of reps 
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I cant speak for others but I expressed on the 3rd or 4th page my sentiments about it... One it is false and ppl convenient worship pick and choose... and in doing that expect to be respected in doing so... We don't respect dads who sometime daddies... or is a child support daddy... Yet we suppose to respect sometimes Christians...?
No other facet really in life can a person be so flip flop wishy washy...with no legimate explanation rhyme or reason for doing so and they would be seen as respectable or honorable.
We wouldn't be respecting/honoring a cop who pick choose when to follow the law and when to be a renegade cop on some lapd ish... and we damn sure wouldn't be accepting of it if he said oh well that's just cause.. or any other empty fallible excuse.
the second thing outside of a coping mechanism and a scapegoat for resolving issues and personal responsibility... church/religion in reference to blacks has done absolutely nothing in the betterment and advancement of its ppl.
I personally have no issues at all with ppl believing following etc... But in the case of most other ppl and races as I stated earlier, they have used faith belief etc.. to actually accomplish progress do something valuable in life for the ppl at large.
I actually go and attend many services I actually went to dr bronner service awhile back to meet up with some folks about the hair show... some is good some is bad...
and ive mentioned this before.... what I don't respect like a few yrs ago when td jakes was in town and was getting black folks all riled up about the Trayvon martin stuff and the other boy who got shot at the gas station... and saying we gotta get together and protest and help one another and join help the families... So he comes out and promotes a book he published..and folks handing over money hand over fist...
Now if the proceeds were sent to those families sure...id accept that.. But the fact that he used that to get ppl to give...add to the fact that all those black folks gave on some pat myself on the back atta bot I made a difference by buying his book was just sad...
That's not all black ppl obviously but that's not something that's common in my experiences with non black churches.. they would have collected money helped those folks and or legal services etc... not use it as a guilt trip to get ppl to give money/purchase some product your promoting.
I mean worship praise etc... but at least provide do something positive impactful something that improves ppl lives etc... like a ala mlk... ala like what a Malcolm x did...
Folks now just using it a like a once a week self cleansing/repent tool to get off they chest all the f' upped things they did the other six days and what they are going to do the following next six days... Ppl are using to get acceptance for past regressions and wrongs they refuse to face and accept and make right...ppl are using it to avoid the obvious and problems/issues in their lives and their family/community. ppl use it as a substitute for seeking psychological help/treatment... and physical help/treatment...
Even under the guise and principle of said of the religion this is not what it was intended for it to be... ppl have taking something remixed it and formed and molded it to fit work their lives and how they choose and wanna live their lives
its like kaseem reed and well ill just leave that alone but...
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what does going to a bible college have to do with
um actually santa claus did exist and their is proof...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus he was a real man in most part did the very thing he is known for now the whole flying reindeers etc.. is fabricated and unproven... but so is jesus walking on water.. turning water to wine etc...
so infact it is exactly the same... both are ppl who did exist... who are known for some amazing feats feats that defy logic and has no proof of ever occurring outside of old folktales and stories of the past so....................
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ok. I'll man up. I will bring up both the passage in Exodus as well as slavery in general, with my Pastor. See if he can explain the context to me. This isnt something we've looked at in detail, to be honest.
Just because theres slavery in the Bible, it does not mean Jesus endorsed it. Theres murder, incest and other horrible things in the Bible, Jesus didnt approve of them.
But I'll discuss this over and post in here tomorrow.
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this is just turning into the Bill Nye, Ken Ham debate.
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Of course the Messiah endorses slavery... If it's in the LAW OF GOD, and written up and down the bible, you best believe the Messiah would endorse it. The Messiah IS THE LAW.
But once again, with the Children of Israel ruling, and all nations in subjection to them.
But once again, with the Children of Israel ruling, and all nations in subjection to them.
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Of course the Messiah endorses slavery... If it's in the LAW OF GOD, and written up and down the bible, you best believe the Messiah would endorse it. The Messiah IS THE LAW.
But once again, with the Children of Israel ruling, and all nations in subjection to them.
right... now why would anybody wanna believe in something where that is the core belief?
Like, huh?
Nah G. I'm cool.Similar threads
