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Banks2Pierce wrote:
Haha idiots. I have more of a football background than all of you. Act like Brady played well against the Giants, against the Ravens, Broncos, Colts. He has a resume of choking. Look it up.
And prove me wrong. Look at Cassel's numbers in NE and KC. Night and day.
No, you don't. To assume that you do and to make non educated statements about Brady being a choker only exemplifies how little you really do know. Nt is filled with characters such as yourself who pretend to have knowledge, but in reality don't know what they're talking about. Funny how you have to resort to name calling, the irony.
please can one of you guys please explain how he choked this game away.
it's the opposite, he did nothing to win it. That's the problem. And "GOATS" don't do that.
Think about what you saidOriginally Posted by devildog1776
One of the best but not the best.
And that is stone cold truth.Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, and Brady
I was too young to watch Elway when he was real great, but whenever people call him the GOAT, I don't see it cause the best player on those Broncos teams was Terrell not him.Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, and Brady
Remember, Elway was 0-3 in super bowls and getting old as hell, suddenly Terrell Davis shows up, and Elway wins 2 bowls back to back. Did those erase the other 3 he lost? No. But he's still right up there. Multiple super bowls, stats, heart, leadership, arm strength and so on and so on.
agreed 100%.Originally Posted by CP1708
And that is stone cold truth.Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, and Brady
QB has gotten so damn cluttered now, there is no possible way to say #1 above all and beyond. I could make a case right now for Montana, Elway, Brady, Manning, Favre, and still leave out Marino my all time favorite player and the guy that I would want with my life on the line to win a game. But it can't be measured. It's like saying who is the best hitter of all time, Ruth, Bonds, Pujols, Musial, Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Pete Rose, Hank Aaron.......it can't be proven.
We can pour over stats and situations and blame others and do all this forever, but there is ZERO way that Peyton can be proven as the best. Not when he keeps losing playoff games.
Remember, Elway was 0-3 in super bowls and getting old as hell, suddenly Terrell Davis shows up, and Elway wins 2 bowls back to back. Did those erase the other 3 he lost? No. But he's still right up there. Multiple super bowls, stats, heart, leadership, arm strength and so on and so on.
Peyton is an absolute pleasure to watch. He is a machine for a QB. He has led a great offense every year he's played in the league, but it simply can not be proven that he is the best to ever play the position. ONE of the best? Absolutely. But anybody that swears he is the one QB they would want with their life hanging on the line, they are lying to themselves. Others have done that better.
Peyton throwing that pic keeps my boy Favre in my top 5....he no longer looks like the lone choker of the top 5 qbsOriginally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, andBradyFavre
re-read what you just said.Originally Posted by IKnowRap
Peyton throwing that pic keeps my boy Favre in my top 5....he no longer looks like the lone choker of the top 5 qbsOriginally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, andBradyFavre
Originally Posted by IKnowRap
Peyton throwing that pic keeps my boy Favre in my top 5....he no longer looks like the lone choker of the top 5 qbsOriginally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, andBradyFavre
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
re-read what you just said.Originally Posted by IKnowRap
Peyton throwing that pic keeps my boy Favre in my top 5....he no longer looks like the lone choker of the top 5 qbsOriginally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, andBradyFavre
Hopefully this stops some of the ridiculous statements in this thread, great post.Originally Posted by CP1708
And that is stone cold truth.Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Peyton Manning is in my top 5 for QB's I've seen in my lifetime...it can debated if he's the number 1, but in no order...I've got Montana, Elway, Marino, Manning, and Brady
QB has gotten so damn cluttered now, there is no possible way to say #1 above all and beyond. I could make a case right now for Montana, Elway, Brady, Manning, Favre, and still leave out Marino my all time favorite player and the guy that I would want with my life on the line to win a game. But it can't be measured. It's like saying who is the best hitter of all time, Ruth, Bonds, Pujols, Musial, Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Pete Rose, Hank Aaron.......it can't be proven.
We can pour over stats and situations and blame others and do all this forever, but there is ZERO way that Peyton can be proven as the best. Not when he keeps losing playoff games.
Remember, Elway was 0-3 in super bowls and getting old as hell, suddenly Terrell Davis shows up, and Elway wins 2 bowls back to back. Did those erase the other 3 he lost? No. But he's still right up there. Multiple super bowls, stats, heart, leadership, arm strength and so on and so on.
Peyton is an absolute pleasure to watch. He is a machine for a QB. He has led a great offense every year he's played in the league, but it simply can not be proven that he is the best to ever play the position. ONE of the best? Absolutely. But anybody that swears he is the one QB they would want with their life hanging on the line, they are lying to themselves. Others have done that better.
Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
Idiots.
Lettin' initial emotions dicate the status of an all-time great to the point where "loser" and "pick 6 bound to happen" like it were Favre is all non sense. NT stays the home of hypebeast/hypebeast haters. Totally irrational.
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Initial emotions?????
It's been OVER A DECADE of playoff failure. That ain't initial anything man. That's stone cold facts. Brees in one game has equaled what this supposed greatest of all time has. Trent Dilfer got the same titles that Peyton, aka, GOAT, has. Initial my @#$, dudes stay makin excuses for the guy and we're callin em out for it.
No, you don't. To assume that you do and to make non educated statements about Brady being a choker only exemplifies how little you really do know. Nt is filled with characters such as yourself who pretend to have knowledge, but in reality don't know what they're talking about. Funny how you have to resort to name calling, the irony.Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Banks2Pierce wrote:
Haha idiots. I have more of a football background than all of you. Act like Brady played well against the Giants, against the Ravens, Broncos, Colts. He has a resume of choking. Look it up.
And prove me wrong. Look at Cassel's numbers in NE and KC. Night and day.
My college football coach even told me I had the "best football iq he has ever coached."
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Spoiler [+]& that line is up there with dude who wanted to post stats in a week in review thread
Originally Posted by Banks2Pierce
No, you don't. To assume that you do and to make non educated statements about Brady being a choker only exemplifies how little you really do know. Nt is filled with characters such as yourself who pretend to have knowledge, but in reality don't know what they're talking about. Funny how you have to resort to name calling, the irony.Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Banks2Pierce wrote:
Haha idiots. I have more of a football background than all of you. Act like Brady played well against the Giants, against the Ravens, Broncos, Colts. He has a resume of choking. Look it up.
And prove me wrong. Look at Cassel's numbers in NE and KC. Night and day.
Brady won 14, Peyton 9. Brady 3 super bowls outta 4, Peyton 1 outta 2.
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